re: Trump just announced ordering DOJ to look at banning bump stocks

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What can i do? N

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Contact your elected officials. Join a pro-gun rights organization. Vote.

And perhaps more importantly: Take a new, non-gun person shooting.

I’m not picking on you, just answering the question for others who might be wondering the same thing.

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I’m starting to get on board with upping the purchasing age for guns to 21 or maybe shotguns, non- semi auto center fire, and rim fire to 18 with all others to 21.

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Just a couple of points to consider:

- Most gun deaths in the US happen with a .22LR, which is surprising but true
- Could I gift my 18 year old son an AR15 for graduation?
- Teens without parents around, of which there are increasingly many, could be frozen out of the firearms hobby. The antis definitely want kids to be increasingly isolated from fireams altogether so that they won’t oppose gun control legislation.

And to that last point, I think this is an interesting hypothetical: Say all teens for the last 30 years or so had been taken out to shoot an AR15 recreationally, or any gun, and been tought about the function and safe operation of those guns. How many today would believe the AR or other guns should be banned? I am guessing a low percentage.

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It didn't take Jake Tapper on CNN 10 minutes after Trump made the renouncement to say this was a political stunt. You're correct in he will get 0 credit from the left for enacting any type of restrictions.

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Well, if that's the case then keep them legal. frick em.

Yes you could give your child a firearm. Just like I could give my son a pistol at 15 (or whenever I deem he is mature enough) currently. It is a purchase (from store) age. Not an own age.

Don’t fool yourself. A lot of those parentless (fatherless) kids have access and have used guns way before legal purchase age.

the AR15 is going to be the hill that both sides commit to dying on.
this rifle/carbine is designed to kill armed combatants as efficiently as possible and unfortunately has been recently the weapon of choice for those committed to killing even more efficiently unarmed non combatants

yes it's awesome and fun to shoot.
yes it's accurate and lends itself well to sport shooting
Yes it's affordable and endlessly adaptable

it's going to be the event horizon for 2nd amendment rights. Yes you can yell "what about the mini 14" or similar but it's the AR being used to commit mass murder and perception is what counts. I personally don't own one and if tomorrow it was banned my life and pursuit of happiness would be unchanged.

this bump stock BS is just window dressing. Nobody wants schools being riddled with bullets. This is going to change whether we like it or not

I think the bump stock stuff is a compromise. And believe it or not, trump was voted in to 'make good deals'...ie compromise.

Don't get me wrong, it won't change a thing...but if it shuts them up for 5 years, oh well.

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then they'll push to ban the weapon next time.

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Well IF that happens, draw your line in the sand. I'll be right there with you.

The issue won't go away though. There will be a dem in the WH, probably after trump sadly...and eventually they will have a majority in both chambers. Your best prayer at that point is that the issue isn't a big deal at that point.

Not sure there is a true fix on either side

Just another point: This latest shooter was the only teenager out of all the shooters in recent memory.

Dylan Roof was 21 and didn’t use an AR
Lanza was 20
LV guy was old
Cho was 23 and didn’t use an AR

I guess I am wondering why the age limit is so important given these latest examples? 3 out of 5 were over 21, Lanza was almost 21.

I'm curious, why are so many of you ok with compromise? You think this will get the leftists to shut up for a moment? When the next shooting happens then they will say that these bans did nothing so now they want all guns banned. I'm barely 21 and it's sad that even I understand that there is no compromise with the leftists more than some of you who have been around much longer. Compromise got us so many stupid pieces of legislation thinking the leftists would stop and shut up. Obviously it hasnt gotten us anywhere.

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You are probably right. But what's the play from the right? Just keep saying nope nope nope? 

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I can see improvement to background checks and reevaluation of how law enforcement handle situations like this. Too many times we have seen federal law enforcement fall on their face and the people pay a high price.