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Talk to me about buying gun parts during the assault weapons ban era

Posted on 11/8/20 at 8:26 pm
Posted by jlovel7
NOT Louisiana
Member since Aug 2014
23808 posts
Posted on 11/8/20 at 8:26 pm
So not to get political but clearly we may be headed for some more restrictions in the world of firearms. I’m a new firearm owner and wasn’t near old enough to really know anything that was going on related to them from 94-04. Were you still able to get individual parts for weapons that were banned? Were banned weapons actually able to be purchased still through legal means? Maybe second hand or pre ban models?

Basically how much of a pain in the arse was it? I’m also hoping it’s not going to make me a felon overnight if new legislation goes through.
Posted by civiltiger07
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2011
15002 posts
Posted on 11/8/20 at 8:34 pm to
The AR specifically was not banned. A gun that contained a specified number of features was banned. Those features just happened to be features common on AR’s.

Instead of focusing on if you could buy a part during a ban. Join a 2nd Amendment group to protect our right in the first place.
This post was edited on 11/8/20 at 8:37 pm
Posted by CrownTownHalo
CrownTown, NC
Member since Sep 2011
3078 posts
Posted on 11/8/20 at 9:21 pm to
For a new firearm owner, from your recent posts, you sure are interested in skirting the edges of legal vs illegal.

Buy a legal firearm and learn to shoot it.
Posted by skinnytrees
REC Check Writing Office
Member since Sep 2015
1805 posts
Posted on 11/8/20 at 9:27 pm to
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Buy a legal firearm and learn to shoot it.



They all are according to the constitution
Posted by CrownTownHalo
CrownTown, NC
Member since Sep 2011
3078 posts
Posted on 11/8/20 at 9:31 pm to
Yeah, I agree, but would,hate for dude to end up in jail,or paying a big fine for having a rifle with a 13inch barrel.

I doubt quoting the constitution in federal court would get you off.
Posted by jlovel7
NOT Louisiana
Member since Aug 2014
23808 posts
Posted on 11/8/20 at 10:09 pm to
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For a new firearm owner, from your recent posts, you sure are interested in skirting the edges of legal vs illegal.

Buy a legal firearm and learn to shoot it.



I say this from a perspective is I don’t want to accidentally buy something illegal. I’m trying to take personal responsibility.

I had considered buying a couple AR uppers to be able to swap around. My last thread taught me that if I have a SBR upper but no corresponding stamped or pistol lower, I’d be fricked on constructive intent. I would have never known that had i not asked. And it’s not like whoever I buy it from is going to give me a warning.
Posted by jlovel7
NOT Louisiana
Member since Aug 2014
23808 posts
Posted on 11/8/20 at 10:10 pm to
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Yeah, I agree, but would,hate for dude to end up in jail,or paying a big fine for having a rifle with a 13inch barrel.


Thank you
Posted by CrownTownHalo
CrownTown, NC
Member since Sep 2011
3078 posts
Posted on 11/8/20 at 10:58 pm to
Hah...skinny trees is right, under the constitution it should all be legal. It’s all really stupid.

This post was edited on 11/8/20 at 11:00 pm
Posted by bayoudude
Member since Dec 2007
25838 posts
Posted on 11/9/20 at 6:58 am to
Prepare for magazines to quadruple in price. During the Clinton era ban you could still buy pre ban weapons but the price was hefty
Posted by 03GeeTee
Oklahomastan
Member since Oct 2010
3402 posts
Posted on 11/9/20 at 7:01 am to
I was a kid back then and all I had was a 22 rifle. But to my understanding, you could still buy “banned” items like 30 round mags and rifles with “evil features” but they had to me made prior the ban date. So a “pre-ban” ar-15 and mags were legal to own and sell but if you wanted to buy a brand new AR-15 it would have to be in compliance with the ban and couldn’t have bayonet lug, threaded barrel, collapsing/ folding stock, etc.

However, most of the proposed bans I’ve seen from the Democrats lately wouldn’t allow for grandfathered guns like the 94 AWB did. You would either have to register them in the NFA, turn them in, or some proposals I’ve seen would allow you to keep them without registering but you can never sell them.
Posted by X123F45
Member since Apr 2015
29460 posts
Posted on 11/9/20 at 8:28 am to
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last thread taught me that if I have a SBR upper but no corresponding stamped or pistol lower, I’d be fricked on constructive intent.


... Just keep it on a lower.

Jesus.

I've never even seen an atf agent. Atc sure. Atf... Nope.
Posted by bapple
Capital City
Member since Oct 2010
12189 posts
Posted on 11/9/20 at 9:25 pm to
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However, most of the proposed bans I’ve seen from the Democrats lately wouldn’t allow for grandfathered guns like the 94 AWB did. You would either have to register them in the NFA, turn them in, or some proposals I’ve seen would allow you to keep them without registering but you can never sell them


As much as I know they would love to do this, I don’t see a chance in hell of this happening. Besides just the conservatives curb stomping democrats in Congress, covid and the riots have made any gun control a losing issue for a minimum of 5 years, IMO.

This isn’t to say we don’t stay vigilant, but the mass of new gun owners have realized some of the ridiculousness of gun laws. We just have to do our part as educated gun owners to keep them vigilant as well.
Posted by Scoob
Near Exxon
Member since Jun 2009
22838 posts
Posted on 11/9/20 at 10:36 pm to
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As much as I know they would love to do this, I don’t see a chance in hell of this happening. Besides just the conservatives curb stomping democrats in Congress, covid and the riots have made any gun control a losing issue for a minimum of 5 years, IMO.
I sure hope you're right, and I hope the demographics of new gun buyers rolled into the the Biden camp a fair bit.
That may sound crazy, but the thought is, it makes them a bit "soft" on support, and he's going to have to try not to frick with them too much. Of course, he's basically a single-term president anyway, no matter what, since he's going to be in his 80's by the time 2024 rolls around.
Posted by auggie
Opelika, Alabama
Member since Aug 2013
30901 posts
Posted on 11/10/20 at 1:47 am to
I bought an AR-15 before the ban, and really back then, I was the only person that I know, that even had one. The Ruger Mini 14s were a little more popular, but still not common. I don't remember building AR-15s being a thing either. If you wanted one, you went and bought a Colt, because that's about the only choice you had. Seems like the ones during the ban, just didn't have flash suppressors or bayonet lugs.
This post was edited on 11/10/20 at 3:05 am
Posted by Scoob
Near Exxon
Member since Jun 2009
22838 posts
Posted on 11/10/20 at 6:04 am to
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I bought an AR-15 before the ban, and really back then, I was the only person that I know, that even had one. The Ruger Mini 14s were a little more popular, but still not common. I don't remember building AR-15s being a thing either. If you wanted one, you went and bought a Colt, because that's about the only choice you had
As I remember, AR's were pretty doggone expensive, way more than they are now. Like you said, you had Colt, and I think Bushmaster was around.

Big thing going was the 7.62x39, you had cheap AK's and cheaper SKS's. And then the SKS made the cut when things got banned, so people fiddled around with them a lot. You'd have all the plastic Tapco stuff as people tried to make them into "black rifles" with plastic detachable magazines etc.

Like the AR's, another gun that wasn't really around then was the 1911. You had the Colts, and there was some stainless steel brand that wasn't so highly regarded, and then as I remember it was off to the various Hispanic guns. Llama's which looked similar but weren't, you had the Ballester Mollina's that weren't really, either, stuff like that. Norinco clones were around, people scoffed at them but they turned out to be good. I honestly don't remember there being that many other brands back then, and as I recall what WAS out there was expensive.

This thread reminded me, I needed to order a replacement SKS firing pin. I have a Yugo that the original buggered up on me, got it back before this all started back then.

There's a guy who makes spring-loaded pins that are supposed to be better, and the setup is drop in. Murray's.
it's $39 with free shipping from his own site, or over $50 plus shipping from Brownells
This post was edited on 11/10/20 at 6:20 am
Posted by choupiquesushi
yaton rouge
Member since Jun 2006
33730 posts
Posted on 11/10/20 at 7:34 am to
I've been trying to find a MK 54- SADM since the navy took em out of the arsenal years ago with no luck.





for the black suburbans and helos.... I AM KIDDING
Posted by auggie
Opelika, Alabama
Member since Aug 2013
30901 posts
Posted on 11/10/20 at 10:34 am to
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As I remember, AR's were pretty doggone expensive,

My Colt was well over 1,000 bucks when I bought it, and that was in the mid-eighties. That's probably like 2,500 now.
Posted by Three Oh Eight
Member since Sep 2020
30 posts
Posted on 11/10/20 at 1:10 pm to
If you’re talking spare parts, it’s never a bad idea to have a spare barrel, bolt (or entire BCG), some gas tubes and a buffer/spring kit. The other stuff shouldn’t wear out unless you’re jumping in the ocean with it.
Posted by fallguy_1978
Best States #50
Member since Feb 2018
53053 posts
Posted on 11/10/20 at 1:16 pm to
IIRC the ban didn't make criminals of existing owners. It included a grandfather clause.
Posted by jimbeam
University of LSU
Member since Oct 2011
75703 posts
Posted on 11/10/20 at 1:24 pm to
Biden has already stated that wouldn’t be the case this time. He wants millions of felons overnight
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