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re: FYI for the few dog hunters left
Posted on 11/30/17 at 8:00 pm to NimbleCat
Posted on 11/30/17 at 8:00 pm to NimbleCat
You can’t police the other dog hunters to stop shooting down roads and hunting other peoples land if that’s what they’re doing. If they’re already breaking the law, some other dog hunter people telling them to stop isn’t going to change anything.
Posted on 11/30/17 at 8:05 pm to Cowboyfan89
Collectively the people who don’t do it and hate it, for whatever their reasons are.
It’s a shame that it’s dead and my kids will probably never get to experience it the way I did. Its also a shame that those who didn’t grow up doing it will likely never experience it either.
It’s a shame that it’s dead and my kids will probably never get to experience it the way I did. Its also a shame that those who didn’t grow up doing it will likely never experience it either.
Posted on 11/30/17 at 8:08 pm to REB BEER
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Am I supposed to ride around the state and police all the other hunters? We try to do what’s right and enjoy the sport while we still have it.
No. But I'm sure you can influence stiffer penalties for those that don't do it right. Is it necessary to run a deer with a large dog, or can it be done with beagles like your club is doing? Why not limit it to breeds that are easier to control? Stiff fines for hunters who don't keep their dogs off adjacent properties.
Hey, if the guys like you that do it right don't want to try to get it done right across the board, then don't be mad when dog hunting dies. The good suffer for the bad.
I have no opposition to dog hunting. What I oppose is people doing it wrong. That goes for any form of hunting.
Posted on 11/30/17 at 8:10 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Collectively the people who don’t do it and hate it, for whatever their reasons are.
Well, not sure why you responded to my post that way then.
Posted on 11/30/17 at 8:19 pm to Cowboyfan89
What you’re proposing here is unenforceable and would make it worse. The people who want to stay legal would of course quit doing it. The ones that everyone complains about trespassing and shooting down roads would start running dogs without collars.
Fines for dogs going on someone’s property would basically kill every type of hunting there is to do with dogs.
Fines for dogs going on someone’s property would basically kill every type of hunting there is to do with dogs.
Posted on 11/30/17 at 8:28 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt
Banning one form of hunting , will lead to other forms being banned
Posted on 11/30/17 at 8:28 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt
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What you’re proposing here is unenforceable and would make it worse.
Then dog hunting will die. People have private property rights. Running dogs does not give one the right to trample on those rights.
How do small game hunters manage to still have the ability to hunt public land with dogs, but deer hunters do not? Hell, the state created small game emphasis areas for the use of dogs during other seasons. But a deer dogger can't keep his dogs from running all over?
Posted on 11/30/17 at 8:30 pm to choupiquesushi
I grew up doing it from 8 yrs old. The NF in Winn Parish is 60,000 acres, and no one had a problem with it for 30 years. There is plenty of land for everyone to be able to hunt.
It is a losing battle to argue the point, and the nail will be put in the dog hunters' coffin tomorrow. I still own a camp and enough land in the middle of Kisatchie to not be bothered when the season is shut down.
Just wish they would've held off a few more years so my Dad could have enjoyed it a little more.
It is a losing battle to argue the point, and the nail will be put in the dog hunters' coffin tomorrow. I still own a camp and enough land in the middle of Kisatchie to not be bothered when the season is shut down.
Just wish they would've held off a few more years so my Dad could have enjoyed it a little more.
Posted on 11/30/17 at 8:45 pm to choupiquesushi
LINK this is the same guy knighting for ethical coyote rights. With celltech and this treehugging fricker it is a no win they just get on the computer and argue. I don't even think they hunt anything except animal rights. Just do what i do run my coon dogs on the property at night and laugh the next morning knowing some bastard thinks he is going to kill a deer out of his stand the next morning. This board has gone to shite.
Posted on 11/30/17 at 8:55 pm to angus1838
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angus1838
You are one frickin moron if you can't tell the difference between tree hugging and having an issue with purposely taking unethical shots on animals.
I hunt deer, hogs, squirrels, ducks, turkeys...just about anything you can legally hunt.
Pardon me for thinking we as hunters can be more than the uneducated hillbilly, redneck, cousin-frickers antis believe we are. Then again, being from Alabama, that's probably exactly what you are, Gump.
I'll defend any hunter who does it the right way.
If you got a problem with what I believe, I'll give you my address and you can come say it to my damn face.
This post was edited on 11/30/17 at 8:57 pm
Posted on 11/30/17 at 8:59 pm to Cowboyfan89
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But a deer dogger can't keep his dogs from running all over?
The difference is that rabbits run in small circles and deer run in BIG circles. You never know where a deer will run, and it’s damn near impossible to call the dogs off.
It’s really a shame that so many people you talk to say they used to run dogs as a kid and loved it, but “nobody does it anymore”
I’m just glad my kid is 13 and has been able to enjoy this sport with me. I tell him every season to enjoy it while you can, because it won’t be around forever.
Posted on 11/30/17 at 9:02 pm to REB BEER
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The difference is that rabbits run in small circles and deer run in BIG circles. You never know where a deer will run, and it’s damn near impossible to call the dogs off.
So what you're saying is your club rule about no big dogs because smaller ones are easier to control is horseshite?
The pro-dog crowd on this forum is really making me see why so many oppose dog hunting. They know what the problems are and just don't care.
This post was edited on 11/30/17 at 9:04 pm
Posted on 11/30/17 at 9:07 pm to jimjackandjose
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They all deserve this and it is coming to an end soon.
And it's past time. 90% of dog hunters are pure trash. The other 10% are trashy enough. Keep your dogs off my property. Your hunt doesn't take priority over my rights as a property owner.
This post was edited on 11/30/17 at 9:22 pm
Posted on 11/30/17 at 9:11 pm to Cowboyfan89
What defines unethical? Nothing i love more than bashing a coyote head in with a club after he gets caught in my trap, is that unethical? You are correct i am a gump and i hunt my way legally also. I just am not an animal rights cuck that tries to push my beliefs on anyone on a message board. Lets see some trophy photos you big bad hunter. And i don't want your address cause i can't stand your attitude so i dont see how saying it to your face will solve it.
Posted on 11/30/17 at 9:13 pm to angus1838
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And i don't want your address cause i can't stand your attitude so i dont see how saying it to your face will solve it.
Well that makes two of us, pal.
Posted on 11/30/17 at 9:16 pm to Cowboyfan89
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Then dog hunting will die. People have private property rights. Running dogs does not give one the right to trample on those rights
x1000
Posted on 11/30/17 at 9:18 pm to Cowboyfan89
Hunting deer with dogs is not even comparable to hunting deer without dogs. If people must hunt deer with dogs they should have their own bucks only dog hunting season after still hunting season say the first two weeks of February. I’m still not a fan of that but if they must do it that should be the only way they allow it.
This post was edited on 11/30/17 at 9:19 pm
Posted on 11/30/17 at 9:18 pm to choupiquesushi
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Banning one form of hunting , will lead to other forms being banned
This is the answer to Dog/no dog hunting.
When they start taking rights they won’t stop with just a few.
Posted on 11/30/17 at 9:19 pm to SCwTiger
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and I'll be happy when they shut all hunting on public land down. Then the regulations can affect everyone.
hunting public land
Have never. Will never. So go ahead. Your regulations won't bother me.
Also. frick dog hunters. Lowest of the low.
Posted on 11/30/17 at 9:22 pm to REB BEER
Please explain how to do this.
Stupid easy. Put a 4 foot tall fence around the property line. Deer can get over it. Dogs can't.
You're welcome
Stupid easy. Put a 4 foot tall fence around the property line. Deer can get over it. Dogs can't.
You're welcome
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