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re: FYI for the few dog hunters left

Posted on 12/1/17 at 8:51 pm to
Posted by angus1838
Southeast Alabama
Member since Jan 2012
923 posts
Posted on 12/1/17 at 8:51 pm to
I asked you once before lets see the trophy pics you big bad arse hunter. Come on put up or shut up
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
Here
Member since Jan 2011
66763 posts
Posted on 12/1/17 at 8:54 pm to
Well, glad I can sleep tonight knowing the OB thinks I live my life to run high powered walker hounds across land I don’t have rights to infront of people who don’t want me there and yell “frick y’all these is my pappys deer” and run every deer out of the parish never to be seen again.

Where the hell do y’all find these people? I’ve hunted several different areas in my life and have never heard a first hand account of any of this kind of shite happening until I found the internet.
Posted by SCwTiger
armpit of 'merica
Member since Aug 2014
5857 posts
Posted on 12/1/17 at 9:02 pm to
Dammit Downfloor you sound almost as trashy as me.
Posted by Cowboyfan89
Member since Sep 2015
12717 posts
Posted on 12/1/17 at 9:03 pm to
You'll be waiting a while. I hunt for meat, not trophies.
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
Here
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66763 posts
Posted on 12/1/17 at 9:08 pm to
Nahhhhhh. You sound red dirt trashy
Posted by SCwTiger
armpit of 'merica
Member since Aug 2014
5857 posts
Posted on 12/1/17 at 9:15 pm to
There's your first up vote ,
cuz I reckon I is.
Posted by INFIDEL
The couch
Member since Aug 2006
16199 posts
Posted on 12/1/17 at 9:16 pm to
quote:

Where the hell do y’all find these people? I’ve hunted several different areas in my life and have never heard a first hand account of any of this kind of shite happening until I found the internet.



Dude, I can introduce you to entire families of them. Shoulda gone to the courthouse today, you coulda met a lot more. I've hunted clubs when I was a kid (with my pow pow) that, from what I remember, ran dogs the right way. Those aren't the guys that I later grew up running dogs with. They also weren't the guys running the KNF.

I don't want to sound like I hate to "sport" of running hounds. To the contrary, I dearly love it. I love hearing the race. But its dead. It's gone. It simply can't exist in todays landscape. I'm ok with it because I love deer hunting more then I love the hounds and getting the hounds out of the woods makes a profound positive impact on our deer herd.
Posted by REB BEER
Laffy Yet
Member since Dec 2010
16205 posts
Posted on 12/1/17 at 9:19 pm to
quote:

I’ve hunted several different areas in my life and have never heard a first hand account of any of this kind of shite happening until I found the internet.



I’ve been running dogs since 1989 and never have hunted on public land or been confronted by a hunter who our dogs have run in their property.

I’m sorry all you fellas have had bad experiences with dog hunters, but I’ve never experienced it.

I’ve also hunted for 30 years in Lincoln Parish and have never ever had dogs come across our property while still hunting.
Posted by INFIDEL
The couch
Member since Aug 2006
16199 posts
Posted on 12/1/17 at 9:21 pm to
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I’ve been running dogs since 1989 and never have hunted on public land or been confronted by a hunter who our dogs have run in their property.


Then you have no problem with the banning of dogs on KNF?

Nobody's saying you can't run dogs, just saying you can't do it on KNF. So what's the problem?
Posted by shamrock
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2015
3621 posts
Posted on 12/1/17 at 9:21 pm to
For two days after Thanksgiving I had to get down from a stand on my land to retrieve dogs that the owners couldn't get onto my land to collect. Another family friend had to end their hunt the same way while on our land. Dog owners give other hunters a bad name but simply don't care about trespassing while chasing their dogs across other people's property. It's not only maddening but sad that these people could give two craps about someone else hunting..on their own land.
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
Here
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Posted on 12/1/17 at 9:25 pm to
Personally, I’m cool with having less deer and running dogs. Everybody hunting together was a whole lot more fun than everybody doing their own thing. It really kinda sucks now, when somebody killed a deer on a dog hunt that you were in you felt like a part of it. We had pictures of deer with 20 people in them. You never see that any more, because the extent of the group effort in it is the work on the property before the season.

I don’t buy that it affects the deer herd in any appreciable way, at least how we did it. It was usually 4-6 dogs far as I can remember, sometimes 8 if it was a big hunt. We still killed plenty deer still hunting and took tons of trail camera pictures at night like we still do. We had some super shitty years and some good years. This year we’re having a bad year and i think it’s been 6 years since we’ve turned a dog loose. Water level in the swamp has always had a far bigger influence on our luck than anything we’ve done.
Posted by Cowboyfan89
Member since Sep 2015
12717 posts
Posted on 12/1/17 at 9:32 pm to
quote:

Personally, I’m cool with having less deer and running dogs.


You can't be serious? First time I've ever heard a hunter say he'd be fine with less game.

There really is something off about ya'll.
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Posted on 12/1/17 at 9:36 pm to
Maybe so. I don’t enjoy still hunting anywhere near as much as hunting with dogs. Nowhere remotely close. I do it because that’s the only way I can hunt them now, but it’s not even in the same league of fun.

And, I don’t think it really affects anything. If the red dirt people are dumping 50 hounds a day out and leaving them in the woods then yea I guess I can see that being an issue. A handful of dogs 2 days a week for something like 6 weeks with damn near all of them coming out the woods every day after the hunt? No way.
Posted by SCwTiger
armpit of 'merica
Member since Aug 2014
5857 posts
Posted on 12/1/17 at 9:44 pm to
We only hunted 3 dogs at a time with tracking collars and made sure they were all accounted for at the end of each day.

Had to get ready for the next round of exterminating the herd while trespassing all we could. LOL

In reality we might kill one or two bucks a day between 12-15 hunters if we were lucky.
Posted by Triton TR 196
Pineville
Member since Nov 2015
154 posts
Posted on 12/1/17 at 10:03 pm to
Exactly, we run 3-4 dogs at a time and we don't make another drive until those 3-4 are caught and put in the box and you shoot a doe when it isn't legal in front of my dogs and you don't come back!! All this crap about killing the herd out with dogs is just that crap! On a good day we would kill 2-3 bucks most days none with 10-12 standers. Let me go and put those same 10-12 in a tree and let's see what we can kill. We have had a camp in Winn parish for about 10 years or so and I can tell you beyond a shadow of a doubt we would kill more deer in the first two weekends still hunting every year than we ever did running dogs all year.
The forestry in Winn doesn't have anywhere close to the deer herd it had 3-4 years ago and we haven't run a dog there in 4 years but every morning and every evening you will hear 15-30 rifle shots! All from these little corn hunting clubs. SC if you have a camp up there like you say you do then you know I'm telling the truth!
Posted by Triton TR 196
Pineville
Member since Nov 2015
154 posts
Posted on 12/1/17 at 10:09 pm to
I never said anything about trespassing onto someone else's property. There is plenty of land to hunt on the forestry without ever getting close to some ones property but your problem is that you think luring the deer of that public property onto a small piece of property is perfectly fine. I bet you like hunting behind a high fence like busbice with the attitude you have.
Posted by bendellee
Member since Aug 2006
2428 posts
Posted on 12/1/17 at 10:24 pm to
Years ago I hunted next to a lease that allowed dog hunting. Problem was never the dogs. It was their owners who ride though your food plot while you’re on the stand.
Posted by Beessnax
Member since Nov 2015
9148 posts
Posted on 12/2/17 at 5:30 am to
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I grew up doing it from 8 yrs old.


I did too. We had alot of fun doing it. Very special memories with my father. The property owners (except for that one crazy old lady) really didn't care if a dog ran across their property at the time. Many pounds of deer were given to the owners to show appreciation. Then timber companies started buying up the land and leasing it and the controversy began. I remember when my family decided to stop doing it because someone would eventually get shot over it. It was a wise decision.

Like many fun things, it has gone by the wayside. I don't hunt anything today so I don't have an opinion in the debate, but I learned alot from those experiences.

This post was edited on 12/2/17 at 5:35 am
Posted by INFIDEL
The couch
Member since Aug 2006
16199 posts
Posted on 12/2/17 at 6:14 am to
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fine. I bet you like hunting behind a high fence like busbice with the attitude you have.


Ya see, this is why you can’t have a conversation with idiots.
Posted by cave canem
pullarius dominus
Member since Oct 2012
12186 posts
Posted on 12/2/17 at 6:52 am to
quote:

Personally, I’m cool with having less deer and running dogs. Everybody hunting together was a whole lot more fun than everybody doing their own thing. It really kinda sucks now, when somebody killed a deer on a dog hunt that you were in you felt like a part of it. We had pictures of deer with 20 people in them. You never see that any more, because the extent of the group effort in it is the work on the property before the season.



You dont see it anymore because it is no longer a rarity to see a deer during daylight hours.

The fact that State records are being shattered and kill numbers exploding seems to make it pretty clear the demise of dog hunting is good for the sport overall.
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