re: FYI for the few dog hunters left

I grew up hunting with dogs for deer. As I got older I became educated at how it damaged our herds. Year after year less and less deer killed during the still hunt days. And of those deer that were harvested quality bucks were even more scarce Hell a 130 class buck was considered a dang monster then and folks would gather around the tailgate in awe of never seeing one that big. In my late 20's I quit dog hunting circles completely. We as a family no longer allowed it on our leases and or private land. Within 3 to 4 years it was such a drastic change. We had a strong herd deer all over the place. Mature bucks that were not scared of thier shadow. Fast forward to 10 years after our decision and we are harvesting 140+ class bucks with consistency and documenting what we want to take off the place and pass to next year because the deer stay in there home ranges and are some what predictable. I go Up to other family land North of Kistachie that dogs are still running and it is like stepping back 10 years. Few deer, scarce population, nocturnal, scared to stick there head out before midnight, scrub bucks poor herd.

We have a strict policy if a hunting dog is seen on our property we are going to attempt to catch it and tie it up or if it is aggressive or stubborn we leave the collar and or the tracking device on the closest gate corner post or road intersection for you. You are not allowed to come and get your dog you lost that right when you failed to properly run in an area you could control your animal in. I understand that may upset you but I would expect the same if my aggressive dog came into your yard as well.

SCwTiger. Troy putting out that flyer has done more damage than good. He helped raise awareness to those of us that have postitive documented changes from stopping dog hunting and will be there probably 4 to 1 in person with facts that support conservation of resource efforts by stopping the dog hunting. And facts will prevail yet again over the "tradition" argument witch the facts show hurt the efforts of conservation.

The US army no longer has a Calvary division. Do you know why? Times change, our level of intelligence as a society changes, we adapt to what we learn or we are doomed.

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So what you're saying is your club rule about no big dogs because smaller ones are easier to control is horseshite?

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No that's not what I'm saying. The beagles are just fast enough to keep the deer moving. The walkers, black & tans, red bones, etc will push the deer so fast that they could wind up 3 parishes over. We ran one through the Walmart parking lot in Vivian once all the way from Oil City.

Even with the beagles, it's hard as hell to get them off a deer, but at least the deer generally stay on our property.

We started running some walkers that just weren’t as good as our old ones were and that worked pretty good. They just weren’t good enough to keep up for long. Our old dogs would blow one out of the whole state.

Beagles never worked where we are. Too much water.

Now we use trail cameras and food plots

Kisatchie has been kicking arse since they got the dogs out. I grew up dog hunting, but I’m out. Their time has passed. That and it’s completelt 100% accurate that dog hunters has ZERO respect for other hunters and property lines. frick em.

I hope they win.

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I hope they win.

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They won't, but you can't say they didn't try.
This fight's been going on for five years now, and it's clear that the dog hunters are done. Our club quit maintaining dogs two years ago, and just a few of the old guard are the ones that won't grasp the fact that it's over.
Can't help it that I'm one of those.

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I miss hiding illegal does in the bushes, running from land owners and killing spikes too.

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I was sitting in a stand by myself at 10 years old with my trusty 35 remmy when i seen a 4 point coming my way slowly. was so pumped because it would've been my first deer, until the same hounds behind him got closer and screwed the whole thing up....i cried

You too huh?

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You too huh?

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Yup