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re: EDC one in the chamber or not?
Posted on 7/6/23 at 10:47 am to eatpie
Posted on 7/6/23 at 10:47 am to eatpie
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you are that afraid of your weapon
Boy, that didn't take long
This is my 2nd favorite topic here, the first being "why do you need to unload your rifle in the camp?"
Hey, look here, a story of someone accidently shooting a gun. On the first page.
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Posted by MotorBoater ? on 7/5/23 at 9:29 pm to geauxbrown
Y’all reminded me of a funny story about my neighbor. He would use his wife’s car to go to the hunting camp because it got better gas mileage than his truck. Well while putting his rifle back in the car he managed to accidentally shoot it! Shot a hole through the roof! Lol
This post was edited on 7/6/23 at 10:49 am
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Posted on 7/6/23 at 10:55 am to DownshiftAndFloorIt
I usually have mine empty. I agree with your reasoning on it. If I carry and going to a known sketchy situation I will rack one. Otherwise I will have to be aware trouble is brewing. I also leave it on the counter at home and having it empty is less chance of problems. Family doesn't mess with it.
Posted on 7/6/23 at 10:58 am to DownshiftAndFloorIt
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why do you need to unload your rifle in the camp?"
Or the former LSU player that had his dog hop on the shotgun. I understand unloading a gun in hunting camp or home situations. I put mine in the safe and lock it every night. I was just talking about carrying in general. Not hunting. I see your point.
Posted on 7/6/23 at 11:06 am to eatpie
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Few people "Handle" their weapon like you are suggesting. In most cases, it doesn't leave the holster when being stored or moved.
I think you need some clarity on what "handling" it includes.
Posted on 7/6/23 at 11:07 am to Chad504boy
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statistically, the gun will be used against you as well.
Statistically, I'd imagine most of the guys on here a are more proficient with handguns than your average Joe.
My mom my stepmom both carry pistols in their cars, and both have concealed carry permits. But it would probably take them 5 minutes to attempt to use them. But because it makes them feel better, I just leave them be.
Posted on 7/6/23 at 11:12 am to TideHater
In my opinion, many people are far too cavalier in their handling of firearms to be toting around striker fired handguns with a round in the chamber.
Me personally, I do not like having a handgun in my pocket with one in the chamber. When you sit down, the gun is pointed straight ahead. Straight at your wife across the dinner table. Straight at the back of the person infront of you in the theater. Straight at your kid when they climb up your leg.
Yall do you, but I absolutely cannot handle that. The only time I have one in the hole now is carrying a DA/SA pistol on the waist, or a single action revolver with the hammer down.
It takes a lot of deliberate manipulation to make those guns fire. A striker fired gun without a safety and a round in the chamber is 5 pounds of pressure and an inch of travel from going off at all times.
Me personally, I do not like having a handgun in my pocket with one in the chamber. When you sit down, the gun is pointed straight ahead. Straight at your wife across the dinner table. Straight at the back of the person infront of you in the theater. Straight at your kid when they climb up your leg.
Yall do you, but I absolutely cannot handle that. The only time I have one in the hole now is carrying a DA/SA pistol on the waist, or a single action revolver with the hammer down.
It takes a lot of deliberate manipulation to make those guns fire. A striker fired gun without a safety and a round in the chamber is 5 pounds of pressure and an inch of travel from going off at all times.
This post was edited on 7/6/23 at 11:16 am
Posted on 7/6/23 at 11:23 am to Loup
quote:even for well trained folks that practice a lot - chambering a round in a high pressure and chaotic situation is a recipe for failure……. Like idiotic “I use a pump shotgun for home defense, because when they hear the pump they’ll turn tail”
If there isn't a round in the chamber you might as well carry a rock
No, they know right where u are and where to shoot and with “buck fever” at 3 am u likeky didn’t actually chamber a round.
Posted on 7/6/23 at 11:34 am to TideHater
Absolutely one in the chamber , however all my guns are Da/Sa.
Posted on 7/6/23 at 11:53 am to TideHater
Ruger LCR is the way
Posted on 7/6/23 at 11:54 am to TideHater
I've met a few Israelis that carry without one in the chamber. They pull and rack in a very fluid motion. Having seen them in action at a range I would not even contemplate it without an extreme amount of training.
Posted on 7/6/23 at 12:30 pm to REB BEER
quote:Is there information out there re: use of cc weapons? I just wonder how often they are actually used, percentage etc. Especially in La.
Statistically
Posted on 7/6/23 at 12:30 pm to TideHater
I carry my k9 and his muzzle is off.
Posted on 7/6/23 at 12:44 pm to AlxTgr
I've never seen anything that looked credible.
Posted on 7/6/23 at 12:52 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt
Ditto. The probability of some sort of accidental discharge from carrying one in the chamber all the time far exceeds that of a specific encounter scenario where you don't have the extra quarter second it takes to rack a slide.
I'm willing to risk it for the peace of mind of no worrying about an accidental discharge around family. Know a guy who accidentally dropped his loaded glock and shot himself.
I'm willing to risk it for the peace of mind of no worrying about an accidental discharge around family. Know a guy who accidentally dropped his loaded glock and shot himself.
Posted on 7/6/23 at 1:03 pm to Douglas Quaid
For me, I generally do not keep one in the chamber. It comes down to the odds of a freak accident vs the odds I need to draw so quick that I wouldn't even have time to rack the slide.
I live in a safe rural area though so it is hard for me to envision a scenario where someone runs up to me and shoots me before I had time to draw & load one. I guess the way I see it, in the unlikely event I ever needed to draw, it would be a mass shooting type scenario where I would have time to load one, unless I was the unlucky one who got shot first I suppose.
THAT SAID, if it is 2:00 AM and I have to stop and get gas in some sketchy area or something, yes I will chamber one before getting out to pump gas.
I get both arguments though. If I lived in a different area or had different life experiences, my opinion may differ.
I live in a safe rural area though so it is hard for me to envision a scenario where someone runs up to me and shoots me before I had time to draw & load one. I guess the way I see it, in the unlikely event I ever needed to draw, it would be a mass shooting type scenario where I would have time to load one, unless I was the unlucky one who got shot first I suppose.
THAT SAID, if it is 2:00 AM and I have to stop and get gas in some sketchy area or something, yes I will chamber one before getting out to pump gas.
I get both arguments though. If I lived in a different area or had different life experiences, my opinion may differ.
Posted on 7/6/23 at 1:07 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Me personally, I do not like having a handgun in my pocket with one in the chamber. When you sit down, the gun is pointed straight ahead. Straight at your wife across the dinner table. Straight at the back of the person infront of you in the theater. Straight at your kid when they climb up your leg.
Yall do you, but I absolutely cannot handle that
This is me. I will say that I'm not really a pistol guy. I don't EDC and generally only use them (and they are striker fired) to shoot trapped hogs but I can't get away from how I was brought up about being aware of where guns are pointed. Even if I KNOW a gun is unloaded it still bugs me about where a muzzle is pointed.
Posted on 7/6/23 at 1:15 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt
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More people should carry on an empty chamber IMO. At minimum, you are going to handle that gun twice a day every day. That's two opportunities to accidently shoot it every single day.
So now you're conditioned to always believe the gun you are handling is empty.
Posted on 7/6/23 at 1:24 pm to TideHater
stupid argument
Posted on 7/6/23 at 1:26 pm to TideHater
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I always carry with one in the pipe
If you're going to carry for protection, why wouldn't you?
Which leads to my second point,
If you're worried you may negligently or otherwise accidently discharge your weapon if you carry with it properly loaded then you should not be carrying. You should train until you no longer feel incapable of safely carrying and handling your weapon.
Posted on 7/6/23 at 1:39 pm to Douglas Quaid
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dropped his loaded glock and shot himself
Or pulled the trigger accidentally and tried to save himself the embarrassment, which I do think is what happens in most cases. I dont think very many pistols are going off just from hitting the ground.
It doesn't really change anything though. A gun with an empty chamber can't go off even if someone does accidently pull the trigger.
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