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Gtmodawg
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re: Ducks Unlimited
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Put up a few wood duck boxes along a bayou, manage them, see the results, and call it good.

Time to put them up is in the next month or so.

At least you know the small amount of money and effort put forth is directly benefitting the local population.



There are probably also PLENTY of volunteer opportunities to improve public hunting areas....getting involved locally is the best way, in my opinion, for your efforts to have an impact. It allows concerned hunters some input into things like blind construction and placement and hunting days and hours. If left up to the underpaid employees of the state and federal government blinds will all be lumped together in the easiest places they can get to and will be as visible as no blind at all. And without some pressure from local hunters the days and hours when hunting is allowed will most likely be what is convenient for them.


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mylsuhat
Chicago Cubs Fan
Mandeville, LA
Member since Mar 2008
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re: Ducks Unlimited
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I see they’re on the climate change bandwagon.


Same with NWTF.
there is a difference between recognizing a changing climate and trying to pin that change on certain things.


Climate change is real. Always has been. Always will be.


As that happens, shifts in game patters will likely change as well. e.g. Wooly Mammoth
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aTmTexas Dillo
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Member since Sep 2018
6522 posts

re: Ducks Unlimited
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Do y’all seriously think less rice and more cane is to blame for less ducks ?

I do think moves away from agriculture do affect numbers of ducks and geese. I lived out near the Katy Prairie west of Houston. In the early 2000s large groups of ducks and geese were there. Rice was still planted to a fairly large degree and there were flooded rest ponds. When the field went fallow and when farmland began to be sold for housing developments the waterfowl hauled arse somewhere or stayed in Kansas, Oklahoma, Missouri and Arkansas. You southwest Louisiana hunters, is the duck and goose hunting any good there anymore? Is there any large scale rice grown in Calcasieu and Cameron Parishes anymore? Are there flocks of geese in the fields around Gum Cove anymore?


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mrcoon
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Member since Jul 2019
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re: Ducks Unlimited
There is not enough rice left over in the fields after harvest today to make it worth a ducks time to feed in them due to new varieties of rice and better harvesters. Also, herbicide applications don't allow for beneficial weeds that ducks feed on to grow in the rice fields anymore.

The rice field hunting in my area used to awesome until about 10 years ago when they changed how they farmed rice. Rice fields are just not what they used to be for ducks.


mrcoon
LSU Fan
Louisiana
Member since Jul 2019
124 posts

re: Ducks Unlimited
This sums up a lot of what is happening with ducks and it is not good for Louisiana. It is long but a good listen. I don't agree with all of it, but there is a lot of undeniable truth in this podcast.

XO: State of Waterfowl


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Scrowe
New Orleans Saints Fan
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re: Ducks Unlimited
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Do y’all seriously think less rice and more cane is to blame for less ducks ? The price of rice could go through the roof tomorrow and everyone plant rice. Is that going to make our duck numbers go up? Give me a damn brake


So less food on the coast, less food throughout the state, and more food north has zero impact on birds? Animals, especially birds change their habits quickly based on food supply and the effort it takes to obtain it.

Also as another stated farming habits have hurt the food as well in the fields.
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KemoSabe65
Member since Mar 2018
3527 posts

re: Ducks Unlimited
IMO, the majority are lobbying/marketing orgs on a national level with very little input down at the state level from their volunteers. Add in licensing agreements and the relationship between the two clouds the end goal, again. IMO.
I may be wrong but La never led in rice, Ca, Ar & La? There is nothing that anyone can do to correct the problem, there is zero future for duck hunting in La. pockets will still have them but most areas are going to be har holes.


AlxTgr
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Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
69960 posts

re: Ducks Unlimited
How does a DU question jump directly into rice average?


The cane in my area is not displacing rice btw. And, there's no ducks in our rice lol


Cowboyfan89
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Member since Sep 2015
9082 posts

re: Ducks Unlimited
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The cane in my area is not displacing rice btw. And, there's no ducks in our rice lol

Go down south, and you will see that is the case everywhere.

Now, the increase in crawfish ponds is just as much to blame for the lack of ducks in rice fields as sugarcane is. I don't see many ducks on crawfish ponds--either too grown up, too deep, or they are purposely trying to keep them off the ponds.


choupiquesushi
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yaton rouge
Member since Jun 2006
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re: Ducks Unlimited
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down south, and you will see that is the case everywhere.

Now, the increase in crawfish ponds is just as much to blame for the lack of ducks in rice fields as sugarcane is. I don't see many ducks on crawfish ponds--either too grown up, too deep, or they are purposely trying to keep them off the ponds.
and the constant activity in crawfish ponds negates their use as resting areas.


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aTmTexas Dillo
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re: Ducks Unlimited
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There is not enough rice left over in the fields after harvest today to make it worth a ducks time to feed in them due to new varieties of rice and better harvesters. Also, herbicide applications don't allow for beneficial weeds that ducks feed on to grow in the rice fields anymore.

So why do the ducks hang out around equally efficiently harvested grain fields in Arkansas, Oklahoma or Kansas or Montana or wherever else the hang out now?


LSUballs
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re: Ducks Unlimited
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What's your problem with pine trees?



Ducks hate them, basket rack 5 points, meth, obesity, crossbows, obese meth headed crossbowers, shitty soil, pine cones, LA Tech, Pineville, Pine Bluff, Pine Hill, dry counties, Rockstar entergy drinks, Alabama, illiteracy, vape pens, teen pregnancy, and Smirnoff Ice. For starters.


choupiquesushi
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yaton rouge
Member since Jun 2006
24127 posts

re: Ducks Unlimited
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I may be wrong but La never led in rice, Ca, Ar & La? There is nothing that anyone can do to correct the problem, there is zero future for duck hunting in La. pockets will still have them but most areas are going to be har holes.
you are not wrong. Changing ag practices altered the migration and wintering patterns of Canada geese several generations ago, especially on the east coast - they used to winter in the coastal marshes - now they do not. LA refuses to accept the fact that increased mechanized activity, constantly degrading habitat and negative land use and habitat changes, along with invasives are quite frankly an insurmountable obstacle. couple that with NO till and the adaptation of water fowl to use reservoirs - quite frankly places north and north west of LA are much more duck friendly than LA is now.


so kemosabe you are not wrong. Hunting in several locations around the state for many years the decline started in late 90s and was in full cycle in early 2000s then an obvious decline began and is only increasing. If I have to move to KS, SD or NE then so be it(heck they have quail too )


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AlxTgr
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Kyre Banorg
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White Bear
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re: Ducks Unlimited
Although implied I think corn pilers should be listed.


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rmc
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Zachary, LA
Member since Sep 2004
25088 posts

re: Ducks Unlimited
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Tell me why I should join them.


I don't duck hunt but I love the banquets. Always win guns.


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deltaland
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Member since Mar 2011
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re: Ducks Unlimited
DU has no interest in supporting duck populations and hunting in the Deep South so frick them


deltaland
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re: Ducks Unlimited
It has less to do with rice acreage and more to do with farming practices.

Farmers used to leave rice, soybeans, corn stubble standing after harvest and flood the fields. Very few do this, they disk it under and burn it off now whereas they used to wait till spring to disk. This destroyed the duck migration patterns


choupiquesushi
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yaton rouge
Member since Jun 2006
24127 posts

re: Ducks Unlimited
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So why do the ducks hang out around equally efficiently harvested grain fields in Arkansas, Oklahoma or Kansas or Montana or wherever else the hang out now?
I'll take less invasives, and less mechanized human activity and grains other than rice leave much more behind.

as for Ark rice, more invertabrates....


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Midtiger farm
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re: Ducks Unlimited
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harvest and flood the fields. Very few do this, they disk it under and burn it off now whereas they used to wait till spring to disk


This is not true in LA and Ark even with a dry fall. There are millions of flooded stubble acres in both these state at the moment and I'm not including crawfish ponds in that number either
With row rice and no till becoming so popular there is more corn and bean stubble left in the winter than 10 or so years ago

and if it were true then 2018 and 2019 should have been legendary hunting because hardly any fall work was done


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