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Midtiger farm
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re: Ducks Unlimited
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There is not enough rice left over in the fields after harvest today to make it worth a ducks time to feed in them due to new varieties of rice and better harvesters


harvesters are more efficient but there is more grain to be left out there because the yields are so much higher and rice fields are marginally cleaner from weeds than they were 10-20 years ago - not enough to make difference in the hunting


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Louisiana used to be the largest rice producer in the United States.


Yea in 1970 then Ark went over 1 million acres in the mid 70s and have been there ever since
California always had plenty of rice

The highest LA acreage ever got was around 650k and this past year we had around 490k but some acreage has shifted to NELA - Morehouse parish is close to have the 3rd highest rice acres in the state

Cane is expanding more North than West and has marginally affected rice acres - There are way more former rice acres in Vermillion and Cameron parish that are just fallow/pasture/ or have just returned to marsh than have been converted to cane

Crawfish acres increase have hurt duck hunting way more than cane


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MWP
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DU has no interest in supporting duck populations and hunting in the Deep South so frick them


I'm not sure I follow this at all. Imo, DU needs to be spending money in the pothole region in the Dakotas and Canada, first and foremost. That should be their priority. Although they do lots of projects down here in the Wintering grounds so I really miss your point, I would much prefer the money spent on breeding grounds.


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dpier16
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NWTF doesn't seem to do anything for this State which is why I am not a member, but DU does a good bit for this State/Duck population overall—which is why I am a member. Member solely for reasoning of helping fund projects is only aspect I honestly look at. CCA is another one that meets criteria IMO and membership fee is something I can do that I know our State wont do.

As for pines, they took place of oaks along rivers in Florida Parishes at an alarming rate. Less and Less Wood ducks every year along the pearl and Bogue Chitto especially in the last 5 years. No food=no birds.

Pines used to be solely along high ridges and further away from the river, but now literally but up to the river in many places now.

Not related to ducks, but pine plantations are #1 cause of decreasing turkey population in Florida Parishes and decrease/shift in doves IMO. (dont get me wrong there are still great opportunities to hunt both).

Pine's took place of oaks/natural pines/fields which is killing both.

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texag7
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Advances in No till farming and air drills

Farm land in the Midwest is not conventionally plowed under these days

Seed and stubble stays on the surface throughout the winter providing food sources


White Bear
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Farm land in the Midwest is not conventionally plowed under these days
What do they do about hardpan? I think minimum till/strip till is a thing now but would result in the same as no-till (minimum surface disturbance) as far as I can see.
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Many of the old pine savannahs in W. St. Tammany have become pine plantations or subdivisions. We still have hardwoods in the bottoms on our family land along the Tchefuncte River north of Goodbee, but it's gotten rather hard to navigate/hunt in the last few years due to storm damage and lack of prescribed burning.

ETA: St. Tammany used to be a rice producing parish. The entire are where Archbishop Hannan High School and the Rouses' are on down to Madisonville was planted in rice. Tantella and Triangle Ranches were rice fields before they were cattle farms.
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drakeT1217
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I can not speak for south Louisiana. I don’t know what goes on down there. I can only speak for morehouse parish because I live and farm here. Rice acreage is not down here. All of these big farms can not grow anything but rice, if anything there is more rice now bc of the Kennedy mill and the adoption of row rice. I can also tell you that since 2016 there has been more beans and rice left in the field than ever due to terrible harvest conditions. As far as farming practices that were stated like “farmers used to leave the stubble and now they disk it down”, for one, due to weather conditions the past several years that hasn’t been able to happen on many of these rice fields, 2, when you do that do you think that seeds just disappear ? If anything it scatters food out and becomes more available for ducks. I don’t know what the real problem is I just personally do not believe Louisiana is killing less ducks because of less rice.


GREENHEAD22
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Of course, anyone with half a brain knows this. This planet has been constantly changing. Hell for more than half its existence the carbon level in the atmosphere was so high humans wouldn't be able to live. Both poles were giant swamps.

But today when someone says climate change that is not what they are talking about so don't be coy.


Actually I take that back, most people are dumbasses so they probably don't know that. Hence why the country is the way it is now.
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KemoSabe65
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How many #’s of crawfish you catch in the year neg? Bet you know my people too.


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Cowboyfan89
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What do they do about hardpan?

Deep rooted cover crops and traffic controlled farming help with that issue.

Believe it or not, tillage is not necessary to farm.


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texag7
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What do they do about hardpan?


Deep ripping with shanks


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geauxbrown
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Wooly Mamouth


Wild Turkeys don’t migrate though. LOL


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Bayou Harvard
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Wow that’s funny and so true!


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Sparetime
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Yep. Also, to the hard pan question, its all tiller and no plows.

Go look at Farm trader and see the amount of tillers, scratchers, rotaries compared to sub soilers and rippers. We have an acre grown up with chisel plows and sub soilers... and a brand new 30 foot roto tiller.


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Sparetime
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I left them in the early 2000s when they slapped the farmer in the face with there lobbying of the farm bill. DU is in it for the money, period. Isn't it still the largest mitigation bank in the nation? You think they buy those conservation easements to grow ducks so you can shoot them? They say they do but duck numbers decrease and their bank grows larger. They need members to cover up their agenda. And i've hunted with a past chairman and another board member my whole life, but never duck hunted with them.

Give your money to the NRA, so you will have something to shoot just in case you see a duck.



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GOA


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Martini
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re: Ducks Unlimited
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Go look at Farm trader and see the amount of tillers, scratchers, rotaries compared to sub soilers and rippers. We have an acre grown up with chisel plows and sub soilers... and a brand new 30 foot roto tiller.



Tell me how to fix my slip clutch on my Bushhog RT60 rototiller. Tilling a new corn patch yesterday I must have hit something.


Sparetime
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Call Bushhog, great company. We removed and dismantled the gear box on our 20 ft. clipper first, then called for the parts to rebuild it. Goldmine equipment said they don't sell the parts, even though it was 4 years old bought from them.

Called Bush hog and told them our story, they sent the entire gearbox for basically freight. Moral... call the manufacturer first.


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