re: ATF brace rule has been published

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I know we’re talking about it here and we understand it, but at every turn I’m reminded how impossibly convoluted and complicated this all is. Operative word being “impossibly.”

To my simple mind, if a rule can’t be clearer, it is inherently unnecessary.

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These people are generally incompetent and inept, however, they definitely use that to their advantage.

So, here's where I am standing, at this point in time;

was not a member of FPC or GOA at the moment they filed for injunction. I did not join afterwards, because I think the ruling was pretty clear that you had to be a member on day 1 of the filing. I know FPC was doing some backdating, but that's something that can be revealed way too easily with a simple financial review. I wouldn't want to try to use THAT as a defense, and then be determined to be committing fraud, perjury etc by claiming to be a member at the relevant time.

Months ago, before anything was clarified about this, I picked up some smooth buffer tubes @ $10 apiece. At the time, it seemed like that would be required to be compliant, but since then it seems like any buffer tube is ok, as long as nothing is attached.

So I have pulled the braces off, boxed them up and gave them to my brother. Different house, and he only has a single AR carbine, no pistols. They're simply "extra stocks" for him, and out of my possession.

I never fully trusted this would go well for pistols, so my uppers are Bear Creek. Absolute worst case scenario, it cost under $200 per upper, and I can get different barrels if that is the only resolution.
These are side-charging, I wanted to try that out anyway.

I suppose another option if push came to shove, get a long flash-hider and have it pinned/welded, thus bringing the overall length to 16"+. Would have to find someone who can do that for a decent price, to make that worthwhile.

If I remember high school civics class taught me congress makes the laws. School House rock taught that too. Thus the ATF doesn't make legitimate laws, only suggestions to congress.
This is all about posturing and control.

And then all the gun grabbers could scream about actual assault rifles (even though they're too expensive for 99% of us).

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Right, but short barreled rifles are covered by an act of Congress

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Act of Congress cannot supersede the Constitution.

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Act of Congress cannot supersede the Constitution.

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It should not but unfortunately, already has.

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It would be hilarious if the brace takes down all the NFA's

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That's a legit thought I've had.

I could see the NFA act get caught up in the backwash from this. Courts might rule in favor of keeping full-auto as a restriction, but the SBR angle might get wiped out.

It's truly weird that you could have a handgun (way more concealable) in any caliber, but you get restrictions on barrel length for rifles. Seems arbitrary, and arbitrary exceptions don't usually stand up under heavy scrutiny. The law shouldn't be about what you can shoot accurately and effectively, it should be about what you're allowed to have.

If I can own this in 30-30


what's the point of a law preventing me from having a larger firearm, in a smaller caliber? It won't be as concealable, it won't be as powerful.

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How hard, once it's pinned and welded, is it to reverse,

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Very hard, you’d be better off buying a new 16” barrel.

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Right, but short barreled rifles are covered by an act of Congress.

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Except SBR's had a very specific definition that was also part of that act. Think there are now four injunctions against the ATF enjoining them from enforcement of this rule with at least one more injunction pending.

Only 0.6% to 1% have complied with the deadline.

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/washington-secrets/biden-and-atf-just-created-29-million-felons

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The owners of just 0.6% to 1% of AR-15-style pistols have complied with a May 31 deadline set by the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives to register their firearms.

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According to ATF spokesman Erik Longnecker, “As of June 1, 2023, ATF received 255,162 applications for tax-free registration.”

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