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re: Are Crowsbows legal during bow season ?
Posted on 8/25/17 at 12:33 pm to civiltiger07
Posted on 8/25/17 at 12:33 pm to civiltiger07
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Well that's your opinion. Definitely not a fact.
You are right. I misspoke. I'll revise.
Crossbow hunters, in general, are less skilled than real bowhunters.
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Posted on 8/25/17 at 12:36 pm to tenfoe
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Crossbow hunters, in general, are less skilled than real bowhunters.
Ok so why does that make you so angry?
Posted on 8/25/17 at 12:37 pm to civiltiger07
quote:Good question.
Ok so why does that make you so angry?
Posted on 8/25/17 at 12:40 pm to civiltiger07
He answered that before you asked it. If affects him personally.
quote:How about when I use my atlatl?
If you're out there with no sights, shooting a recurve or similar, you're the man.
Posted on 8/25/17 at 12:44 pm to tenfoe
I get people wanting to have more woods to hunt and less people in the woods. I understand that archery season typically affords a person just that.
If someone wants to participate with a crossbow instead of a compound, it's not going to change much in the overall scope of things. Obviously, the ease of entry will attract more people during the season, but a lot of people picking up crossbows are people who formerly used compounds. It doesnt mean they suddenly turn into poor woodsmen who ride atvs everywhere and screw everything up, it means they just want to use a crossbow.
I have never understood why sportsman get so worked up over the way others hunt. There are so many people trying to break hunters up, I never saw a reason to do it ourselves.
I understand it is a big time and money sink between dues, fuel, licenses, scouting, work days, equipment... I would never assume that someone doesn't have as much skin in the game as I do just because his bow has a trigger. If someone wants to spend their time and their money with a crossbow, good for them, doesn't hurt my feelings.
If someone wants to participate with a crossbow instead of a compound, it's not going to change much in the overall scope of things. Obviously, the ease of entry will attract more people during the season, but a lot of people picking up crossbows are people who formerly used compounds. It doesnt mean they suddenly turn into poor woodsmen who ride atvs everywhere and screw everything up, it means they just want to use a crossbow.
I have never understood why sportsman get so worked up over the way others hunt. There are so many people trying to break hunters up, I never saw a reason to do it ourselves.
I understand it is a big time and money sink between dues, fuel, licenses, scouting, work days, equipment... I would never assume that someone doesn't have as much skin in the game as I do just because his bow has a trigger. If someone wants to spend their time and their money with a crossbow, good for them, doesn't hurt my feelings.
Posted on 8/25/17 at 12:44 pm to xenon16
quote:More people in the woods is what I've gathered.
He answered that before you asked it. If affects him personally.
Seems a bit of stretch to attribute the increase of shitty people in the woods to the legalization of crossbows.
This post was edited on 8/25/17 at 12:46 pm
Posted on 8/25/17 at 12:47 pm to xenon16
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How about when I use my atlatl?
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If you're out there with an atlatl, you're a god
Posted on 8/25/17 at 12:53 pm to Citica8
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You ever bow hunted out of a box stand? Can you shoulder your pre-cocked bow and release it from a seated position with minimal movement? Does your bow come equipped with a magnified scope? "Ballisticslly" for lack of a better term, they are similar, but let's not act like that's the only advantages that a crossbow has over a compound, recurve, or longbow.
See this is where I have the issue with a crossbow. I for the most part don't give a shite about who uses what. My lease has box stands with archer windows. I have never bowhunter out of one but it can be done, plus I get the stealthy part of the box stand but I would rather be in a tree during that heat.
The problem I have is that they are seen as a bow but have less restrictions. I think it is bullshite that I can't use a magnifier lense on my bow but Jim Bob can use a damn 10x on a crossbow. Not that I would want to use the magnifier, but don't la they are the same but then give them different sets of rules.
I personally believe that private land should not have the requirements that public land has. Other than the hunting hours and overall season it should be left up to the land owner to dictate weapon of choice. Now that would suck for me because I love early season with less people out and I the quiet. Hell other than the really shitty weather days I would probably never grab anything but my bow it not for the other members bringing border line cannons with them.
Posted on 8/25/17 at 12:55 pm to DownSouthDave
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If it gets more people hunting, that's a good thing.
But it doesn't
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Everyone is free to hunt how they like, no harm in that
Sure there is. Running dogs can frick up a still hunt in a heartbeat
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I'm sure the guy shooting a recurve with his fingers is making comments about how guys who shoot 70% let off, trigger releases, sights, stabilizers, whisker biscuits and such should wear blaze pink.
Jesus. Terrible analogy. Shooting a cross bow is closer to shooting a rifle than it is a compound
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The important thing is that people are out there enjoying the woods.
Posted on 8/25/17 at 1:08 pm to DownSouthDave
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The difference between cross bows and compound bows is negligible.
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'm saying that the advantages of a crossbow over a compound are miniscule
Oh, you were serious....
Posted on 8/25/17 at 1:09 pm to jorconalx
I conceded the first point. I doubt it brings in new people.
This conversation is about archery, meaning everyone is free to hunt with whatever type of bow they like.
It's a very good analogy. The amount of skill and time it takes to shoot a crossbow and a compound are much closer than a traditional guy and a compound.
Sorry you only want people out there who enjoy the sport in the same way you do. The more guys out there doing it the better, in my opinion.
This conversation is about archery, meaning everyone is free to hunt with whatever type of bow they like.
It's a very good analogy. The amount of skill and time it takes to shoot a crossbow and a compound are much closer than a traditional guy and a compound.
Sorry you only want people out there who enjoy the sport in the same way you do. The more guys out there doing it the better, in my opinion.
Posted on 8/25/17 at 1:25 pm to DownSouthDave
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It's a very good analogy. The amount of skill and time it takes to shoot a crossbow and a compound are much closer than a traditional guy and a compound.
Sorry Dave, this is complete horseshite.
Posted on 8/25/17 at 1:33 pm to DownSouthDave
quote:This is just wrong.
I'm saying that the advantages of a crossbow over a compound are miniscule
390 fps and 100 yard accuracy.
Another 100 yards-using a rest like one would in a box stand.
Posted on 8/25/17 at 1:33 pm to jorconalx
We need to have a crossbow poll.
Personally I could care less what a man hunts with as long as it's legal.
I've got more important things in life to get my jimmies rustled about.
Personally I could care less what a man hunts with as long as it's legal.
I've got more important things in life to get my jimmies rustled about.
Posted on 8/25/17 at 1:37 pm to StrongBackWeakMind
quote:Not really. These people were rifle hunters before.
Seems a bit of stretch to attribute the increase of shitty people in the woods to the legalization of crossbows.
Posted on 8/25/17 at 1:47 pm to DownSouthDave
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opening up the law to allow crossbows doesn't mean you have to use a crossbow, just that it's an option. If you're not forced to use one, what's the point in caring who uses one? It doesn't affect you,
This is where you're wrong. It does affect everyone who hunts public land. The fact that shooting even a compound bow over 30yds requires a lot of skill and practice means that most people aren't willing to put in the work to use them. Since this is the case, in years past bowhunting allowed people to put in work that gave them many more opportunities to hunt the months of bow season before and after gun season. With fewer people doing it, there was a lot less pressure on the deer as well. Allowing anyone to shoot crossbows during bow season now means that literally any hunter can hunt the entire season on public land and can do so with almost no additional effort or training, and can make shots up to 75 yds with very little problem. Now the public land in LA has a ton more pressure and the guys who were willing to put in the work to distance themselves from the other hunters are left in the lurch with their years of developing archery skills basically netting them nothing.
Posted on 8/25/17 at 1:50 pm to AlxTgr
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Not really. These people were rifle hunters before.
We have to give them something to do when they aren't fishing shrimp under a cork.
Posted on 8/25/17 at 1:52 pm to gorillacoco
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tenfoe
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Posted on 8/25/17 at 1:53 pm to REB BEER
quote:This isn't like cargo shorts.
Personally I could care less what a man hunts with as long as it's legal.
I've got more important things in life to get my jimmies rustled about.
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