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re: Are Crowsbows legal during bow season ?

Posted on 8/25/17 at 4:19 pm to
Posted by DownSouthDave
Beau, Bro, Baw
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 8/25/17 at 4:19 pm to
I understand where you are coming from. You feel like it's cheating and they are lazy because they don't put in the time and effort you did. And since they didn't put in the work, they shouldn't be able to bow hunt when you bow hunt.

And you say that crossbow is different, and you're right. It's close to shooting a gun at 400fps. A bow shooting 350fps with all the modern equipment today is closer to that than it is shooting a recurve at 200fps with your fingers and no sights.

It looks so similar, but it's a quantum leap in efficiency, just like a crossbow. If everyone wants to put archery up on a pedestal, make it instinctive only. That will separate the purists from the rest in no time. You'll have most of the forest to yourself.

In the end, it doesn't matter. You know how these things go, once they start seeing those extra license sales come in, it's here to stay. Accept it or not, crossbows aren't going anywhere.

Posted by tenfoe
Member since Jun 2011
6854 posts
Posted on 8/25/17 at 4:24 pm to
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I understand where you are coming from.



No. You evidently don't. It's not about whether or not it is lazy. How fast it is, or anything other than hunting with crossbows during bow season. We use the lazy/mouth breathing/F-150/Luke Bryan/White-framed glasses/#itsinmyblood stuff to piss crossbow people off because we don't like it during bow season.

Posted by Citica8
Duckroost, LA
Member since Dec 2012
3665 posts
Posted on 8/25/17 at 4:26 pm to
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Everyone here is complaining about a bow that is more technologically advanced and easier to use than the one they use...just like compounds are more technologically advanced and easier to use than the ones before them.


First of all, it's not a bow. It says so in the name.

Cross = X
X = not
Crossbow = notbow

Second, you're completely negating the one thing that all three types of bows(and by bows I mean compound, recurve, and long) have in common, it's the draw. Without the draw, it's just an object with no potential energy. A cocked crossbow has stored energy, more of which than any of the previously mentioned bows have. If you don't understand how big of a game changer that is there is no validity to your arguments.
Posted by DownSouthDave
Beau, Bro, Baw
Member since Jan 2013
7386 posts
Posted on 8/25/17 at 4:32 pm to
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How big is your corn feeder? What about your box stand? You listen to Luke Bryan yet today? What about them white frame Costas? You got some Ultra in your Yeti in the back of your F-150 Jacked up in the driveway? 


I've been defending my point of view for 4 pages. I'm in the absolute minority here, but I'm good with it. I don't mind discussing it even though nobody agrees with me, everyone seems to be OK with that. But for some reason you keep trying to call me out because my opinion is different than yours.

Grow the frick up.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
81755 posts
Posted on 8/25/17 at 4:32 pm to
And the ability to rest it on the box stand ledge.
Posted by Citica8
Duckroost, LA
Member since Dec 2012
3665 posts
Posted on 8/25/17 at 4:32 pm to
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In the end, it doesn't matter. You know how these things go, once they start seeing those extra license sales come in, it's here to stay. Accept it or not, crossbows aren't going anywhere.
It's just like taxes. If I make more money I get taxed a higher percentage. Does that make it right? If I don't agree, do I have a choice? It might be legal, but I don't have to like it.
Posted by DownSouthDave
Beau, Bro, Baw
Member since Jan 2013
7386 posts
Posted on 8/25/17 at 4:35 pm to
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A cocked crossbow has stored energy, more of which than any of the previously mentioned bows have. If you don't understand how big of a game changer that is there is no validity to your arguments.


Well, unless you pull back, a compound or recurve doesn't have any stored energy. But once you pull it back, a compound is MUCH closer to a crossbow than a traditional bow.
Posted by civiltiger07
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2011
14038 posts
Posted on 8/25/17 at 4:35 pm to
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All crossbow hunters gun hunt.


Oh ok
Posted by tenfoe
Member since Jun 2011
6854 posts
Posted on 8/25/17 at 4:38 pm to
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ut once you pull it back, a compound is MUCH closer to a crossbow than a traditional bow.



That's like "once bruce cut his wiener off, he was MUCH closer to a woman than before."

You can try to justify it if you want, but a crossbow is not a bow.
Posted by jorconalx
alexandria
Member since Aug 2011
8640 posts
Posted on 8/25/17 at 4:42 pm to
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But once you pull it back, a compound is MUCH closer to a crossbow than a traditional bow.


No it is not. It's not the same as shooting a trad, no. But damn dude shooting a cross bow is much closer to shooting a rifle than it is shooting a compound. Are you sure you aren't trolling???
Posted by tenfoe
Member since Jun 2011
6854 posts
Posted on 8/25/17 at 4:44 pm to
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Are you sure you aren't trolling???



He isn't. He's just ignorant, bless his heart.
Posted by civiltiger07
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2011
14038 posts
Posted on 8/25/17 at 4:47 pm to
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shooting a cross bow is much closer to shooting a rifle than it is shooting a compound.


well they both have triggers. How isn't that a leap to say?
Posted by jorconalx
alexandria
Member since Aug 2011
8640 posts
Posted on 8/25/17 at 4:49 pm to
the only thing a compound and cross bow have in common is that they both have strings
Posted by civiltiger07
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2011
14038 posts
Posted on 8/25/17 at 4:50 pm to
And pulleys, limbs, arrows/bolts, broadheads
Posted by Citica8
Duckroost, LA
Member since Dec 2012
3665 posts
Posted on 8/25/17 at 4:51 pm to
You don't understand the difference between stored energy, potential energy, and kinetic energy?

The only difference between a gun and a crossbow is the amount of chemical energy a hunter has to exert to get the crossbow into the stored energy stage.

Unless you know of crossbow hunters that wait until they are ready to shoot to cock the crossbow this is comparing apples to elephants
Posted by jorconalx
alexandria
Member since Aug 2011
8640 posts
Posted on 8/25/17 at 4:55 pm to
There is nothing similar in the way you draw, aim and release a compound in comparison to shooting a fricking crossbow.
Posted by jorconalx
alexandria
Member since Aug 2011
8640 posts
Posted on 8/25/17 at 4:56 pm to
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You don't understand the difference between stored energy, potential energy, and kinetic energy?

The only difference between a gun and a crossbow is the amount of chemical energy a hunter has to exert to get the crossbow into the stored energy stage.

Unless you know of crossbow hunters that wait until they are ready to shoot to cock the crossbow this is comparing apples to elephants



Posted by civiltiger07
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2011
14038 posts
Posted on 8/25/17 at 4:57 pm to
Ok I never said there was. Just pointing out that a string isn't the only thing in common.
Posted by civiltiger07
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2011
14038 posts
Posted on 8/25/17 at 4:58 pm to
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You don't understand the difference between stored energy, potential energy, and kinetic energy?


Do you? Since potential energy and stored energy are the same thing.
Posted by jorconalx
alexandria
Member since Aug 2011
8640 posts
Posted on 8/25/17 at 5:00 pm to
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Ok I never said there was


then you don't understand the disagreement. Lemme guess, you shoot a crossbow?!
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