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re: Are Crowsbows legal during bow season ?
Posted on 8/25/17 at 9:39 pm to DownSouthDave
Posted on 8/25/17 at 9:39 pm to DownSouthDave
quote:Bunch of tittybabies in this thread. Getting their panties in a bunch because someone likes to kill deer with a crossbow.
Grow the frick up.
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Posted on 8/26/17 at 1:20 am to StrongBackWeakMind
I just wonder how many of the people that are adamately against a crossbow have actually shot one. I have both a bow and crossbow and some of the comments I have read that were made by a handful of posters are severely over inflated.
Posted on 8/26/17 at 7:28 am to The Torch
Dang Baws - I was just asking because I thought it was bullsheet.
One of my buddies suggested I get a crossbow because I've gained a bunch of weight messing with me ha ha
Calm Down - I'm shooting a compound
One of my buddies suggested I get a crossbow because I've gained a bunch of weight messing with me ha ha
Calm Down - I'm shooting a compound
Posted on 8/26/17 at 7:57 am to tenfoe
The important thing is that people are out there enjoying the woods
"No it isn't. "
Yes, it is. How can anyone in the present cultural war going on not see this? In the time of historical monuments being torn down you don't think the Left will be emboldened to come after hunting? Anything gun related or animal related will in the cross hairs of the radicals shortly.
More hunters in the woods means more pro-hunting voters. How can anyone not see this?
"No it isn't. "
Yes, it is. How can anyone in the present cultural war going on not see this? In the time of historical monuments being torn down you don't think the Left will be emboldened to come after hunting? Anything gun related or animal related will in the cross hairs of the radicals shortly.
More hunters in the woods means more pro-hunting voters. How can anyone not see this?
Posted on 8/26/17 at 12:44 pm to SoFla Tideroller
Because there are not more hunters in the woods.
Posted on 8/27/17 at 8:58 am to AlxTgr
All of you compound bow hunters bitching about crossbows need to step up your game. Real men use flint knapped arrowheads and atlatl 
You cant tell me it isn't more difficult to sling a spear at a deer than use a wussy modern compound bow.
You cant tell me it isn't more difficult to sling a spear at a deer than use a wussy modern compound bow.
Posted on 8/27/17 at 8:59 am to AlxTgr
I've sat on the sidelines on this thread long enough, so here it is.
Crossbows should be allowed during rifle season only, UNLESS you have a legitimate disability which prevents a hunter from effectively shooting a recurve /compound bow. Under those circumstances ONLY should a crossbow be used during archery season.
Hunting with a crossbow is basically hunting with a short range rifle. The hunter has no need of the skills it takes to accurately judge distance, stand and draw unnoticed on an animal and then possible be forced to hold at full draw for any time period waiting on the right shot. A crossbow hunter has his weapon ready to shoot at all times while on stand, the same as a rifle. The average bowhunter has an effective range of maybe 40 yds. Any non-disabled lame-arse with a crossbow can hit a deer with his pre-cocked, scoped crossbow from 60-70 yds with basically no practice. No skill set is necessary.
Now in archery circles you still have the traditional vs compound debates. While I hunt with a compound I absolutely can see the traditional archers beef with compounds. I'd be fine with a two week traditional bow season preceding regular archery season. But while the differences between compounds and recurves are meaningful, both still require hours upon hours of practice to become proficient in killing whitetail on a regular basis. The basics of hunting with any style of bow, whether traditional or compound, are virtually the same. Not so with a crossbow.
This is a very sore subject with me and for a good reason....I just recently had my SECOND total shoulder replacement at the not so ripe old age of 54. I am currently still going through PT in order to prepare to start pulling my bow and getting ready for this fall. On top of this I have previously undergone two additional shoulder surgeries as well as having wrist reconstruction
I'm the perfect example of why crossbows were initially allowed during archery season. For people with handicaps or disabilities which make shooting a regular bow difficult, if not virtually impossible.
Yet I can't fathom the thought of ever hunting with a crossbow. It's apples to oranges and personally I have no desire to even attempt it. I will hunt with a bow,all season, for as long as physically possible. And when, or if , the time comes when I can't draw a bow then my hunting career will be done with no regrets.
Don't get me wrong, anyone with a handicap or disability who needs to use a crossbow for archery season is A-OK in my book and has my total support.
However the sorry folks who are too lazy to learn the skills and put in the practice required to hunt with a bow need stay out of the woods until rifle season comes in. Period.
Crossbows should be allowed during rifle season only, UNLESS you have a legitimate disability which prevents a hunter from effectively shooting a recurve /compound bow. Under those circumstances ONLY should a crossbow be used during archery season.
Hunting with a crossbow is basically hunting with a short range rifle. The hunter has no need of the skills it takes to accurately judge distance, stand and draw unnoticed on an animal and then possible be forced to hold at full draw for any time period waiting on the right shot. A crossbow hunter has his weapon ready to shoot at all times while on stand, the same as a rifle. The average bowhunter has an effective range of maybe 40 yds. Any non-disabled lame-arse with a crossbow can hit a deer with his pre-cocked, scoped crossbow from 60-70 yds with basically no practice. No skill set is necessary.
Now in archery circles you still have the traditional vs compound debates. While I hunt with a compound I absolutely can see the traditional archers beef with compounds. I'd be fine with a two week traditional bow season preceding regular archery season. But while the differences between compounds and recurves are meaningful, both still require hours upon hours of practice to become proficient in killing whitetail on a regular basis. The basics of hunting with any style of bow, whether traditional or compound, are virtually the same. Not so with a crossbow.
This is a very sore subject with me and for a good reason....I just recently had my SECOND total shoulder replacement at the not so ripe old age of 54. I am currently still going through PT in order to prepare to start pulling my bow and getting ready for this fall. On top of this I have previously undergone two additional shoulder surgeries as well as having wrist reconstruction
I'm the perfect example of why crossbows were initially allowed during archery season. For people with handicaps or disabilities which make shooting a regular bow difficult, if not virtually impossible.
Yet I can't fathom the thought of ever hunting with a crossbow. It's apples to oranges and personally I have no desire to even attempt it. I will hunt with a bow,all season, for as long as physically possible. And when, or if , the time comes when I can't draw a bow then my hunting career will be done with no regrets.
Don't get me wrong, anyone with a handicap or disability who needs to use a crossbow for archery season is A-OK in my book and has my total support.
However the sorry folks who are too lazy to learn the skills and put in the practice required to hunt with a bow need stay out of the woods until rifle season comes in. Period.
Posted on 8/27/17 at 9:23 am to AUTimbo
quote:
While I hunt with a compound I absolutely can see the traditional archers beef with compounds. I'd be fine with a two week traditional bow season preceding regular archery season.
How about a two week throwing rocks season?
Posted on 8/27/17 at 10:55 am to porkrind
quote:Illegal
atlatl
quote:Illegal.
spear
Posted on 8/27/17 at 12:09 pm to porkrind
quote:
How about a two week throwing rocks season?
Now THAT sounds challenging!
I'll get back with you on that after some research but you may be on to something. ;)
This post was edited on 8/27/17 at 12:10 pm
Posted on 8/27/17 at 1:58 pm to AUTimbo
Yeah they make the most difficult and primitive methods of hunting illegal. What a load of shite.
My point is no matter how "manly" you seem to think you are with your "primitive" compound bows with a cam that takes up the weight of the pull... there is always someone more bad arse than you are. Bitching about crossbow hunters makes you sound like a pansy.
Crossbow hunters can be lazy sitting in a tree or they can go out stalking. Same as a compound bow hunter. ANY bow hunter should by right have the woods first because it is a silent method of hunting. I couldn't imagine going bow hunting during gun season when the forests turn into a shite show with every city yahoo sitting in trees waiting to shoot anything that moves.
The only hunting issue I that could really get my blood boiling is running deer with dogs.
My point is no matter how "manly" you seem to think you are with your "primitive" compound bows with a cam that takes up the weight of the pull... there is always someone more bad arse than you are. Bitching about crossbow hunters makes you sound like a pansy.
Crossbow hunters can be lazy sitting in a tree or they can go out stalking. Same as a compound bow hunter. ANY bow hunter should by right have the woods first because it is a silent method of hunting. I couldn't imagine going bow hunting during gun season when the forests turn into a shite show with every city yahoo sitting in trees waiting to shoot anything that moves.
The only hunting issue I that could really get my blood boiling is running deer with dogs.
This post was edited on 8/27/17 at 2:21 pm
Posted on 8/28/17 at 5:17 pm to porkrind
I agree.
Any BOWhunter should be allowed out during archery season
I don't consider, other than those affected by handicaps or disabilities, anyone with a crossbow a bowhunter.
I feel the same about scoped, sabot loaded blackpowder rifles being allowed during primitive weapons season. Any blackpowder gun which can drill a bullseye from 200 yds is not what I consider primitive.
In reference to what you said, I would be ok with a one week primitive weapon season, AFTER regular archery-only season, during which crossbows can be used. That would and should suffice to make everyone happy IMHO
And I agree with the dog running deer drives. Thats the sole reason I won't hunt the lower part of SC
Any BOWhunter should be allowed out during archery season
I don't consider, other than those affected by handicaps or disabilities, anyone with a crossbow a bowhunter.
I feel the same about scoped, sabot loaded blackpowder rifles being allowed during primitive weapons season. Any blackpowder gun which can drill a bullseye from 200 yds is not what I consider primitive.
In reference to what you said, I would be ok with a one week primitive weapon season, AFTER regular archery-only season, during which crossbows can be used. That would and should suffice to make everyone happy IMHO
And I agree with the dog running deer drives. Thats the sole reason I won't hunt the lower part of SC
This post was edited on 8/28/17 at 5:20 pm
Posted on 8/28/17 at 5:43 pm to porkrind
quote:
The only hunting issue I that could really get my blood boiling is running deer with dogs.
Why do you care what someone does on their own property? It doesn't affect you.
Posted on 8/28/17 at 5:52 pm to tenfoe
quote:
Why do you care what someone does on their own property? It doesn't affect you.
EXACTLY...
I think the only valid points made in this thread is mind your own business as long as it is not illegal.
Posted on 8/28/17 at 6:12 pm to Pepperidge
I've hunted with a longbow last 10 years or so. Got hit by a car and got a new shoulder, so got a crossbow while recovering.
I'm healthy again, but doubt I'll hunt with the longbow (or even a compound bow) again. Crossbow is too accurate and I don't have to draw it without being seen. Distance for safe kill is the same as the others, so a big part of the bow challenge is still there.
that being said, I could kill a state record buck with it and I would not claim it as an "archery" kill. Because of the lack of a draw and the presence of a scope to sight it the end game is too different to "count".
I'm healthy again, but doubt I'll hunt with the longbow (or even a compound bow) again. Crossbow is too accurate and I don't have to draw it without being seen. Distance for safe kill is the same as the others, so a big part of the bow challenge is still there.
that being said, I could kill a state record buck with it and I would not claim it as an "archery" kill. Because of the lack of a draw and the presence of a scope to sight it the end game is too different to "count".
Posted on 8/28/17 at 6:45 pm to tenfoe
quote:
We have to give them something to do when they aren't fishing shrimp under a cork.
I can't wait for deer season to start to get you douchebags off the water.
Posted on 8/28/17 at 6:47 pm to TheCurmudgeon
quote:
that being said, I could kill a state record buck with it and I would not claim it as an "archery" kill. Because of the lack of a draw and the presence of a scope to sight it the end game is too different to "count".
which means it's nothing like shooting a compound, no?
Posted on 8/28/17 at 10:59 pm to tenfoe
quote:
Why do you care what someone does on their own property? It doesn't affect you.
Yeah! Dogs are so well known to respect property lines while running deer.
I don't know how things are where you are at but here the damn dogs go all over the place. I once had those bastards dig right under my fence to continue chasing a deer into a state park.
Never mind that it is a lazy as frick method of hunting.
Posted on 8/28/17 at 11:11 pm to jorconalx
quote:
which means it's nothing like shooting a compound, no?
Nope. About as similar as a long bow vs compound. Anyone who has ever had to hold back a long bow for a extended period... wouldn't be bragging about how awesome they are or deserve special consideration for hunting with a compound.
People that whine about crossbows during archery season remind me of pompous tournament fishermen. Bitching about people using live bait to catch fish that they actually eat. CATCH AND RELEASE>> CATCH AND RELEASE... USING LIVE BAIT IS CHEATING. Whiny fricks
Everyone likes to think they are somehow better than someone else. You are not.
Posted on 8/29/17 at 2:16 am to porkrind
quote:Anyone doing this is doing it wrong.
Anyone who has ever had to hold back a long bow for a extended period
quote:fricking hypocrite.
People that whine about crossbows during archery season remind me of pompous tournament fishermen. Bitching about people using live bait to catch fish that they actually eat. CATCH AND RELEASE>> CATCH AND RELEASE... USING LIVE BAIT IS CHEATING. Whiny fricks
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