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re: 7mm-08 vs 6.5 CM for youth
Posted on 12/10/24 at 10:01 am to iwyLSUiwy
Posted on 12/10/24 at 10:01 am to iwyLSUiwy
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Though the "cripplemore" is a great nickname, I've never found that to be the case
I've killed a dump truck full of deer with the 6.5x55, which is what the creedmoor duplicates in a short action. Regular 140gr soft points, always excellent results.
The swede is much much cooler, and nobody has ever questioned that it's excellent for deer. The creedmoor gets the bad press from people shooting trashy bullets and attempting shots they shouldn't attempt. With 140gr+ bullets it's a fine choice for elk.
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Posted on 12/10/24 at 10:05 am to LoneStarTiger
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I looked into both of these calibers when buying my wife a new deer rifle. Ballistically, using the same weight bullets, they are practically identical. I ended up going with the 6.5 CM due to ammo availability. That's not as important now as it was just a year or two ago though.
Same here. The rifle has killed 7-8 deer with Barnes TSX. Very few have stepped farther than 10 feet. No problems with blood trails. I've been really happy with the rifle and I started shooting it myself, though I don't really rifle hunt too often. With a suppressor on it, there's virtually no recoil. Great option for youth.
Posted on 12/10/24 at 10:35 am to sonoma8
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know Tikka is a good brand….looking to keep it around $500 if possible. Savage or should I just suck it up and get the Tikka?
If you can afford the tikka then get the tikka the fit and finish is way better and will be a lifetime gun.
If you can’t afford the tikka then a savage will definitely work and stack deer.
Posted on 12/10/24 at 10:38 am to sonoma8
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Posted on 12/10/24 at 10:53 am to sonoma8
As a third option, i went with a .243 for my 11 yr old.
Posted on 12/10/24 at 11:22 am to TigerSprings
I’d probably get a tikka compact or roughtec ranch as a number one option, but if the extra cost will make you cheap out on a scope, I’d probably get a Ruger American over the savage. If you think you will suppress it at some point, get one with a short threaded barrel.
This post was edited on 12/10/24 at 3:06 pm
Posted on 12/10/24 at 11:23 am to sonoma8
7mm-08 is better cartridge but 6.5CM probably wins when it comes to ammo availability.
Posted on 12/10/24 at 11:43 am to Red Stick Rambler
You literally are probably shooting the same grain projectile out of both if loading for a kid. I don't understand the hate the 6.5 gets.
Posted on 12/10/24 at 11:55 am to nolaks
The hate is because it’s trendy and ammo companies insist on loading bullets that aren’t optimal for close shots in thick cover. Drop a 140 accubond in it and there’s really no difference between it and the 7mm-08.
Posted on 12/10/24 at 12:16 pm to sonoma8
No question 7mm08 by far. I personally don’t shoot one but I am around many many deer killed every year with different caliber rifles. In my opinion 7 mm 08 may be the best out there. I have seen it on Hogs Deer, and Nilgai
Posted on 12/10/24 at 12:20 pm to sonoma8
Won't speak to the cartridge as either of those would be great with proper bullet selection.
I will speak to the silencer though. I'm 52 and sitting here with my ears ringing in an office. I've always had an office job. My ears ring from shooting as a kid.
Do your kids a favor and buy them a silencer. My daughter isn't a hunter but she does go with me to shoot. My son is a hunter and loves it.
Neither have ever shot a centerfire rifle without a silencer.
They help with recoil, with flinch, and the extra weight helps with steadying the gun during the trigger pull.
You can buy one now and have it in a couple of weeks.
I will speak to the silencer though. I'm 52 and sitting here with my ears ringing in an office. I've always had an office job. My ears ring from shooting as a kid.
Do your kids a favor and buy them a silencer. My daughter isn't a hunter but she does go with me to shoot. My son is a hunter and loves it.
Neither have ever shot a centerfire rifle without a silencer.
They help with recoil, with flinch, and the extra weight helps with steadying the gun during the trigger pull.
You can buy one now and have it in a couple of weeks.
Posted on 12/10/24 at 12:24 pm to 257WBY
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ut the boys will be ready to handle an adult size rifle around 13. You might want to wait a couple of years.
This is the right anwser. My son at 10 started shooting an adult model 270 and since has started shooting a full size 308 or my 7 mag. Dont waste your money on a youth gun for a couple years. Teach them how to hold and brace a gun and most will never mention a recoil if someone else doesnt have it in embedded in there mind.
Posted on 12/10/24 at 12:26 pm to Red Stick Rambler
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7mm-08 is better cartridge but 6.5CM probably wins when it comes to ammo availability.
You can order almost any bullet you want off your phone in less than 5 minutes to be delivered to your door in 3-5 days.
OP, my kids started with the savage youth 7mm-08. They shot 120g reduced recoil loads at first, but after a few shoulder shots that didn't exit I swapped them out for 140g fusions and the kids never noticed. Punches 2 holes in deer. I take it when they aren't hunting with me just because I like the smaller rifle most of the time. Does everything you need in a deer rifle.
Posted on 12/10/24 at 12:42 pm to DaFreakinFarmer
You just summed up my experience exactly! My oldest three boys all started with savage 7 mm 08 rifles. Killed many many deer with them and body weights as heavy as any deer in Louisiana. Two of the three graduated from youth model to full-size rifles and all stayed with a 7mm08 caliber. Normally I hunt with 7mm mag but At times I will pick up their youth model rifles and hunt with it myself.
Posted on 12/10/24 at 1:00 pm to sonoma8
I've never understood much of this thinking. I got my first rifle at 10 years old. A .260. Never gave me any problems and there's really no difference between that and a .270. Started hunting by myself with it at 12.
I wouldn't recommend that caliber now due to ammo problems, but how big of a difference is it really between a 7mm-08 and a .270? You want to upgrade again in 2 years?
I wouldn't recommend that caliber now due to ammo problems, but how big of a difference is it really between a 7mm-08 and a .270? You want to upgrade again in 2 years?
Posted on 12/10/24 at 1:23 pm to Recovered
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6.5 PRC is a better option. 143 grain eldx. My daughter is 5’2 and been shooting the round since she was 12..
The 270win is nearly identical to the 6.5PRC. My 10 year old son shoots my 7mm rem mag. Is that a better option?
OP get the 7mm-08 and don't look back. Skip the 6.5mm all together. I'd rather buy a cartridge that's been around for more than a year or 5.
This post was edited on 12/10/24 at 1:28 pm
Posted on 12/10/24 at 1:28 pm to saintsfan1977
Both 7mm08 X-bolt. Top gun is a youth model. Not a single issue and will take down any whitetail that you put infront of it.
As with any round, shot placement and ammo choice are more important than what round you shoot.
This post was edited on 12/10/24 at 1:29 pm
Posted on 12/10/24 at 1:31 pm to SeaPickle
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Not a single issue and will take down any whitetail that you put infront of it.
Elk too. There is literally no advantage to buying a 6.5 over a 7mm.
Posted on 12/10/24 at 1:33 pm to saintsfan1977
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kip the 6.5mm all together. I'd rather buy a cartridge that's been around for more than a year or 5.
how about 16 years?
Then there's the fact that other 6.5mm guns have been around for over a hundred years.
Posted on 12/10/24 at 1:57 pm to LoneStarTiger
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Then there's the fact that other 6.5mm guns have been around for over a hundred years.
6.5x55 is the only 6.5 that I'd consider.
I'm looking at getting a light rifle since I built 2 heavy ones and I narrowed it down to 243 or 7mm08. I'm going 7mm-08. Not that there's anything wrong with the 243. I'd love one but I'm picking between those 2 and it's a no brainer.
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