re: YouTube TV raising its monthly price from $50 per month to $65

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I’d have to worry about the price of my ISP regardless of cable or using a streaming service so I don’t really see where you’re going here

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People with cable typically have the same provider for ISP and TV, so that's one call every 2 years. You make the same one call for your ISP, plus the shop and bounce "5 seconds" of your next 50 channel provider if they raise your price.

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ISP would be better for the consumer if they had a less regulated market as well. So thanks for making my point I guess?

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Above average attempt to miss or ignore every point that sufficiently refuted yours I guess.

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People with cable typically have the same provider for ISP and TV, so that's one call every 2 years. You make the same one call for your ISP, plus the shop and bounce "5 seconds" of your next 50 channel provider if they raise your price.

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I’ll gladly instead just never have to make a call and simply have upfront information about my current service and all of its competitors at my disposal than haggle and be stuck in a contract for 2 years

Maybe I’m weird but I love the flexibility of being able to adjust my service to my usage. Instead of locking in something like YTTV for a year or two, I can grab it for Football months and cancel it the second I don’t find it’s value to equal the cost. Can you say the same if you realize you aren’t really using the cable as much as you thought you would when you signed that contract?

I’m not sure why you want less options and freedom as a consumer. That’s a foreign concept to me. Maybe you can clear that up for me.

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Above average attempt to miss or ignore every point that sufficiently refuted yours I guess.

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Where are you refuting my point? So far the only thing I’ve gathered from your posts is that you have a weird hard on for haggling and think that you come out on top from dealing with cable companies because you don’t want to manage a subscription through an app?

Ahh streaming TV slowly turning into cable tv.

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You claimed cable subscribers are stuck with increasing prices. I explained how that was false.

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Yeah I could’ve worded that better. Simply put, the rigidity of a contract and limited options of cable providers is not something I’d be happy to deal with and glad I don’t have to.

I don’t understand why you would want less freedom in options as a consumer was my original point

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You lamented the idea of "haggling" the price. I asked if you had to do so with your ISP, which you implied an affirmative response. Then you declared some victory that you'd have to do that anyway. I explained that the a cable subscriber, based on the common nature of a shared provider between ISP and TV services, had to haggle exactly as much as you do.

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I never said I haggled on ISP. I hyaven’t had much of an issue with price changes on my ISP. Simply chose the price/internet usage that worked for me and that’s about it. Ive never once talked to my current ISP over the phone.

But if a couple companies came along and offered ISP services that was completely month to month with zero hardware and unabated by area restrictions, then I’d be the first in line.

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Your response was to extole the virtue of being able to bounce around $1 channel providers as some sort of amazing choice and freedom. You pay 2-3x the price per channel as a cable subscriber, who clearly has many more choices than you do,

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You seem to value “choice” as being able to choose between 100 different music channels with black screens. I value choice as being able to decide “hey it’s the summer, there’s no sports, I’ll be outside most of the time, I’m gonna put my subscriptions on hold for a month and not spend money on a product I’m not using, and probably turn the sub back on in a month or two”

Cable companies are bundling up their dog shite channels and selling then to you wholesale so you feel good about paying out the arse for 150 channels you don’t need and stick you with that same bill for 1-2 years

I’ll gladly pay more per channel when it’s actual channels I watch and I reserve the ability to drop the cost a moments notice.

That is quite undeniably more freedom for the consumer than a cable contract

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just never get the argument in these threads. It boils down to bragging that instead of paying $200 for internet and 450 channels, you pay $130 for internet and 50 channels. I also understand you pay a lot less for ramen than I pay for steak, but are we really going to compare the quality of each other's dinner?

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Well the issue here is that at some point over the past 5-10 years, Ramen turned into high end concept 5 star restaurants and the price of beef is well over inflated for what you get out of it these days, literally and figuratively.

The best programming is on these streaming channels anyway. You’re gonna want to see what these channels offer. The last branch the cable companies were holding onto was live TV and sports which has been chipped away over the last few years. Which again ties into the seasonal nature of those live TV/sports events.

Meanwhile you’re chewing on the fat of your CMT channel steak and bragging that this will be your only contractual meal for the next two years



And I’ve stated multiple times in this thread, if you want to go get cable, be my guest no one is stopping you But if you thought the only benefit that cord cutting created was a cheaper price point and that if the price points were similar that cable would be a better option for most people, then you misunderstand the entire concept.

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I can. Comcast charges $5 extra a month for no contract

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You can thank cord cutting for that development in the market

Also imagine how much you’d guys would freak if YTTV implemented a similar policy of charging you for being able to cancel.


ETA I gotta get my arse to bed, any longer on here and I might have to haggle with my ISP for a higher internet speed

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You can thank cord cutting for that development in the market

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Not really. There were no contracts offered with cable before and after cord cutting

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raising its monthly price from $50 per month to $65 as the company starts to offer eight of ViacomCBS’s channels, which are available today: BET, CMT, Comedy Central, MTV, Nickelodeon, Paramount Network, TV Land, and VH1.

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Who would pay for these shitty channels?

this guy clearly is stuck in his ways and doesn’t get it.

I’ve had YTTV for about 6 months now. I had ATT TV NOW for three years prior to that. YTTV is the most superior streaming service out there and at the old $50 a month was the best value. Now I’d say the value is gone, but it’s still head and shoulders above its competitors, while still being on par price-wise.

When I saw the price hike I went to see what my cable TV+internet bundle options are and between ATT and Spectrum purchasing a la carte Internet + YTTV is still clear and away the obvious choice.

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Amazed some of you anti cord cutter types can’t seem to grasp those concepts

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When the cord-cutting utopia types started up on here it was, "don't get any channels you don't want and pay next to nothing for the ones you do!" Well, two years later channels the consumers don't want is being forced on them. And now an almost 100% cost increase from the original price. But I'm sure this will be the last price jack, right?

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And this is why I haven’t canceled DirecTv yet, if the DirecTv bill goes up we just call and it goes back down,

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Been a directv customer for 4+ years and it just takes one phone call per year after your initial 2 year contract is up.

I’m at $102/mo ALL IN (including taxes, equipment, etc) for their mid tier package, hbo and internet.