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re: Yes, Anti-Vaxxers, Polio did kill people.

Posted on 2/7/25 at 11:03 am to
Posted by TDFreak
Coast to Coast - L.A. to Chicago
Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 2/7/25 at 11:03 am to
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I don't expand it to Covid vaccine. I totally get the opposition to it. Side effects were downplayed, Soviet tactics were used to enforce compliance, and it was forced on kids who didn't need it.
I am pro-vaccines and I agree with this. It was approved under EUA, and then mandated for kids (schools/sports) and many adults (job requirement/surgery prerequisite) with severe repercussions for noncompliance (despite very high covid survivability rates and zero credit for natural immunity). And don’t forget, miraculously flu deaths went to zero. Plus, the big hullabaloo about how hospitals were incentivized by the federal government to classify any death as a COVID death for extra cash.

That said, the polio vaccine was extremely effective with years of research and trials behind it. There was no chicanery going on. No fudging the data. Given the speed (months) and novelty (mRNA) of the COVID vaccine, it should have been optional to the public.
Posted by CatfishJohn
Member since Jun 2020
20241 posts
Posted on 2/7/25 at 11:12 am to
Death isn't the only lasting impact of Polio. My parents had/have a few friends that got it as kids and they were crippled by it, walked with a two arm canes, etc. their whole lives since childhood.

Polio is fricked up and the vaccine is a great success story. Not all "vaccines" are the same and to paint any with the wide brush of being "anti-vaccine" when they just question a handful of them is disingenuous.

Posted by WigSplitta22
The Bottom
Member since Apr 2014
2393 posts
Posted on 2/7/25 at 11:15 am to
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It's not my line of work, and I'm not an expert, but I do belive I gained a lot of insight into medications and how they are approved and prescribed.



With all the corruption Trump is exposing you still want to believe the FDA has your best interest at heart? That's absolute nonsense.

Just about every damn pharmaceutical company are felons and have been ordered to pay millions in fines for fraud and completely misleading consumers. Below was published in 2014 so i'm sure there's some left off of here

Big Pharma, Big Fines
This post was edited on 2/7/25 at 11:17 am
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
122154 posts
Posted on 2/7/25 at 11:21 am to
My mom had Polio when she was 3 (she is now 77), but she said that one day she was sitting down on the floor and her mom called her to go to her and she suddenly couldn't move. She told her mom she couldn't move. She never said what happened exactly after that, but she ended up in the hospital. She was in (is it the general on Florida blvd?), but she had to stay in an iron lung for months.

No one was able to go visit her in the hospital. I forget whether she said they were just waiting to get the vaccine in baton rouge or whether the vaccine had soon developed and it took awhile to get it out to everyone, but she says she remembers her parents talking about it through her childhood. And them mentioning there were kids who passed away, who had been in he hospital for a long time, when my mom was there.

Look at chicken pox. I remember when I was a kid everyone wanted to get it because you got a few days off of school, but now there is a vaccine for it. A friend of mine had shingles several years ago. Evidently he got it much younger than most people and that is a result of having had chicken pox. I am not at all a doctor, but I also know nothing is perfect so lets say that the polio vaccines does cause something in a small percentage of kids. Isn't that a better situation than having a larger number of kids catching polio?

With that said, can anyone say they have a child or know of a child who is believed to have autism because of a vaccine?

Posted by Lou the Jew from LSU
Member since Oct 2006
5418 posts
Posted on 2/7/25 at 11:39 am to
The polio vaccine inadvertently introduced countless carcinogenic diseases into the mass of humanity. Not from the vaccine itself, but from the monkeys that were used to ramp up the production of the serum. In order to get enough serum for mass immunizations they (Alton Ochsner) subbed monkeys for humans. It did indeed ramp up production, but monkeys carried eons of viruses etc. to which they had developed immunity but which are provocative to other organisms.
Read “Dr. Mary’s Monkey”. The conjecture in the book has since been admitted to and is public knowledge.
Posted by DeathValley85
Member since May 2011
19276 posts
Posted on 2/7/25 at 11:42 am to
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That's ok then.

Don't vaccinate your kids.

Don't take any medication, especially cutting-edge cancer drugs, developed by those evil, profit-seeking pharmaceutical companies.

Stick to your guns.



I don't think I've ever met someone so proud to be a sheep
Posted by rattlebucket
SELA
Member since Feb 2009
12855 posts
Posted on 2/7/25 at 11:42 am to
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And abortion becoming legal lowered crime rates nationwide. So we all benefitted


Except for the dead kid
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
122154 posts
Posted on 2/7/25 at 11:48 am to
A $2.3 Billion fine is insane, but its also pretty crazy Pfizer was fined that much and it was just a drop in the bucket. They made $51 Billion in 2014.
Posted by Trevaylin
south texas
Member since Feb 2019
11000 posts
Posted on 2/7/25 at 12:05 pm to
I take it that you have had no relationship with any one that had polio
Posted by theOG
Member since Feb 2010
10834 posts
Posted on 2/7/25 at 12:05 pm to
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prplhze2000


Go stand with Ukraine or something, you fricking goofball.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
55508 posts
Posted on 2/7/25 at 12:52 pm to
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In my state we only lost a dozen or so kids to Covid.

I bet you didn’t actually lose even three. They were counting people who died “with covid”. In the over 70 years of age cohort, you’ll get some people who died of something else while also having covid, but you’ll get a lot more who actually died of covid. So the “with covid” group won’t pollute the overall results too much.

But when you are considering children, you will get a few who died of something else while also having covid, but you’ll get almost none (maybe actually none) who died of covid. So the “with covid” group will dominate in this cohort.
Posted by TX Tiger
at home
Member since Jan 2004
39349 posts
Posted on 2/7/25 at 1:05 pm to
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Read “Dr. Mary’s Monkey”.
Highly recommend.

Also of note: The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention admitted that 98 million Americans were given a “cancer virus” through the polio vaccine.

Knowingly, I might add.
Posted by jrobic4
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2011
13261 posts
Posted on 2/7/25 at 1:07 pm to
How many people vaccinated for Polio from a tainted batch died of soft-tissue cancers?
Posted by jrobic4
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2011
13261 posts
Posted on 2/7/25 at 1:09 pm to
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Dr. Mary’s Monkey


Audio book is free if you have Spotify subscription
Posted by Hellp
Member since May 2023
104 posts
Posted on 2/7/25 at 1:35 pm to
My child’s pediatrician was from India. I asked him about the safety of a vaccine and he told me whole heartedly and respectfully that if I were to see and study the perils of non vaxxed children as he had, I would definitely choose vaccinations for my child. I chose the vaccination.
This post was edited on 2/7/25 at 1:37 pm
Posted by N2cars
Member since Feb 2008
39628 posts
Posted on 2/7/25 at 1:43 pm to


Link?
This post was edited on 2/7/25 at 1:45 pm
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
140573 posts
Posted on 2/7/25 at 1:52 pm to
The use of chlorine and septic systems probably did more to eradicate polio than the vaccine.

In fact basic aseptic technique in daily life coupled with good engineering controls (physical, chemical, radiological, etc.) eliminates the majority of diseases, viral, bacterial and fungal.
Posted by WigSplitta22
The Bottom
Member since Apr 2014
2393 posts
Posted on 2/7/25 at 2:15 pm to
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respectfully that if I were to see and study the perils of non vaxxed children as he had,



Is he talking about kids in India?
Posted by Twenty 49
Shreveport
Member since Jun 2014
21349 posts
Posted on 2/7/25 at 2:15 pm to
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Death isn't the only lasting impact of Polio. My parents had/have a few friends that got it as kids and they were crippled by it, walked with a two arm canes, etc. their whole lives since childhood.


Yep. Those are the folks I think of when I hear polio.

As of last December, there was still one lady in an iron lung. There were many, but they’ve slowly died off.
Posted by prplhze2000
Parts Unknown
Member since Jan 2007
58184 posts
Posted on 2/7/25 at 2:24 pm to
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