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re: WWL: Residents decide to flee or fight for New Orleans

Posted on 6/7/17 at 6:34 am to
Posted by Keys Open Doors
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Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 6/7/17 at 6:34 am to
Yeah, I did a modification a second ago. 158 days in, there have been 83 murders (3 more since in the past 6 days, it appears).

My calculation is now 191
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
78033 posts
Posted on 6/7/17 at 6:36 am to
You NOLA apologists are hilarious.

Continue to ignore the shittiness that is taking over your city.

Posted by threeputt
God's Country
Member since Sep 2008
24826 posts
Posted on 6/7/17 at 6:38 am to
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My calculation is now 191


And that number is minuscule compared with the 1990s ... People are blowing this so much out of proportion it's not even funny
Posted by shawnlsu
Member since Nov 2011
23682 posts
Posted on 6/7/17 at 6:42 am to
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Zillow 70118 and you'll see more $700k+ houses than 250k+ houses.

The crime sucks here but real estate prices are not dropping.


Because, ironically, hipsters and liberals with money will pay ridiculous prices to fit in and be cool
Posted by BRgetthenet
Member since Oct 2011
118270 posts
Posted on 6/7/17 at 6:43 am to
What a massive shithole.
Posted by kciDAtaE
Member since Apr 2017
17798 posts
Posted on 6/7/17 at 6:44 am to
I moved to Houston a few years back and don't regret it at all. NOLA is just a playground for me to visit a few times a year. I have a blast, but would never want to live there again. It's sad because I do miss home.
Posted by Keys Open Doors
In hiding with Tupac & XXXTentacion
Member since Dec 2008
33031 posts
Posted on 6/7/17 at 6:44 am to
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Continue to ignore the shittiness that is taking over your city.


This would imply that the city had little crime in the past, as well as a functioning government and court system, good roads outside of parts of Carrollton and Claiborne, and a decent public school system. That's simply not the case.

New Orleans has significant problems, and I can see why it is unlivable for many people. However, acting as if this is a new phenomenon is absurd.

It's certainly more livable now than 15-25 years ago, and with the post-Katrina arrival of hipsters and somewhat affluent individuals from the Northeast, there are some more tenable solutions to education now than in the past.

I mean Lycee Francais, the International Schools, Bricolage, and the charter schools like Lusher and Audobon at least give some alternative to Newman/Catholic schools/living in the Northshore, which wasn't present a dozen years ago.
Posted by BRgetthenet
Member since Oct 2011
118270 posts
Posted on 6/7/17 at 6:49 am to
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NOLA apologists are hilarious.



The joke is on them. It's a town full of c-u-n-t-s. They sat there and took it in the butt when Mitch destroyed public property and they're sitting there taking it from the mayor and NOPD on the violent crime issue.


I'm embarrassed for the city, the residents, and the homeowners. Why pay property tax to live in such a rancid fricking dump laden with crime, corrupt elected officials, horrible streets, and a deplorable standard of living?

That woman is getting out. She's smart.
Posted by uptownsage
New Orleans
Member since Oct 2014
2156 posts
Posted on 6/7/17 at 6:57 am to
How do you know the NOPD is reporting all the murders?

Also the level of murders is down, but there seems to be an uptick in armed robberies. Further, I'm sure the outright randomness of the crimes is what has people on edge. Going out to eat or going to a show in New Orleans has become a risky proposition due to random crimes. It would be mitigated by actually having a good infrastructure, good schools, and actually feeling like you are getting something for all the taxes you pay to live in the city. But the citizens get no return on the money they give to the city, and have a government that is doing nothing about improving the welfare of its residents.
This post was edited on 6/7/17 at 6:58 am
Posted by dallastiger55
Jennings, LA
Member since Jan 2010
35096 posts
Posted on 6/7/17 at 6:57 am to
One of the big problems they face is as the baby boomers with good jobs and $$ die off, who is replacing them?

Is there an influx of graduates moving to town for better careers?
Posted by elprez00
Hammond, LA
Member since Sep 2011
31624 posts
Posted on 6/7/17 at 6:59 am to
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he city has not been this bad since its pre-Katrina days. The hurricane pushed a ton of the riff raff out but its now worse than ever.

What's truly sad is Mitch did a pretty damn good job post Katrina of cleaning up the city and attracting business. NOLA was named as one of the best cities to do business back in 2009-2010 ish. The city just looked and feeled clean.

And then it's like his sister got voted out of the senate and Mitch stopped giving a shite. Things over the last 3 years have been back to the unfortunate norm.
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
124964 posts
Posted on 6/7/17 at 7:00 am to
I didn't know murder was the only crime that affects people?
Posted by Lou Pai
Member since Dec 2014
29643 posts
Posted on 6/7/17 at 7:00 am to
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New Orleans has significant problems, and I can see why it is unlivable for many people. However, acting as if this is a new phenomenon is absurd.


I don't think anyone pretended that it is a new phenomenon. It is, however, a reversal of a recent trend of declining crime.
Posted by Keys Open Doors
In hiding with Tupac & XXXTentacion
Member since Dec 2008
33031 posts
Posted on 6/7/17 at 7:03 am to
It seems like they are getting a good number of people from other cities. If you go to the Marigny it seems like almost no one is even originally from a Southern state. Lots of Northern transplants, almost all 25-35. However, if they only stay for a few years, then there isn't a solution to your question. I guess a lot depends on what happens with those people and what they decide to do. The easiest way to get them to stay is to have decent public schools.

I do know that Tulane and Loyola Law have way higher percentages of people staying in-state than in the past. However, that number (50-60 more people per year) is a drop in the bucket.
Posted by tigerpimpbot
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Member since Nov 2011
69240 posts
Posted on 6/7/17 at 7:03 am to
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One of the big problems they face is as the baby boomers with good jobs and $$ die off, who is replacing them?

Is there an influx of graduates moving to town for better careers?


I lived uptown with my young family and left in 2001. Even then I didn't think it was a good place to start raising a family. I can't imagine how tough it is now with the real estate market how it is. Add to that the shortage of cops. No thanks.

Oh and frick Mitch
Posted by Lou Pai
Member since Dec 2014
29643 posts
Posted on 6/7/17 at 7:03 am to
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One of the big problems they face is as the baby boomers with good jobs and $$ die off, who is replacing them?

Is there an influx of graduates moving to town for better careers?


No. People are going to pretend there is because of all the hipsters moving in. But there is very little in terms of growing or sustainable industry in the city to entice and keep younger people pursuing professional careers there. The preponderance of jobs are in the service industry, which depresses wages. Meanwhile, professional careers such as law are inhibited by an incestuous culture already embedded in the existing landscape, while the economy itself imposes artificial limitations on the level of work that can be done in those careers.
This post was edited on 6/7/17 at 7:08 am
Posted by chillygentilly
70122
Member since Aug 2012
2640 posts
Posted on 6/7/17 at 7:06 am to
"Times are not good here. The city is crumbling into ashes. It has been buried under a lava flood of taxes and frauds and maladministrations so that it has become only a study for archaeologists. Its condition is so bad that when I write about it, as I intend to do soon, nobody will believe I am telling the truth.

But it is better to live here in sackcloth and ashes than to own the whole state of Ohio."

-Lafcadio Hearn

Posted by Keys Open Doors
In hiding with Tupac & XXXTentacion
Member since Dec 2008
33031 posts
Posted on 6/7/17 at 7:07 am to
Did you move out of state? Or go somewhere nearby?

I think in the past a lot of people who didn't move out of state but thought the same way as you moved to the Northshore. However, all Millennial data up to this point shows a strong aversion to lengthy commutes, across the country.
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
78033 posts
Posted on 6/7/17 at 7:13 am to
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However, acting as if this is a new phenomenon is absurd.
Everyone knows it isn't a new phenomenon.

It is getting a lot of air play now though.

How about y'all finally quit trying to push it aside and start making it a bigger deal so the city benefits in the long run?
Posted by bigrob385series
B. Aura
Member since May 2014
2636 posts
Posted on 6/7/17 at 7:14 am to
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People are blowing this so much out of proportion it's not even funny
sorry,you are in denial but correct in stating that it is not funny.
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