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WTF! Alabama legislators pass bill making it even tougher to get rid of bad kids!
Posted on 4/26/24 at 4:49 pm
Posted on 4/26/24 at 4:49 pm
If the classroom wasn't tough enough for Alabama teachers, now the legislator just passed a bill that will require educators to jump through even more hoops to get rid of bad students. So if you're wondering why Alabama test scores are crashing and more and more teachers are leaving education and fewer and fewer are becoming educators, now you have your answer.
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Posted on 4/26/24 at 4:55 pm to SwampyWaters
Can't be any worse than Pensacola! Then again, Bama and Pensacola are kinda the same. Escambia County is an awful school district
Posted on 4/26/24 at 4:55 pm to SwampyWaters
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So if you're wondering
Nope.
Posted on 4/26/24 at 4:57 pm to SwampyWaters
Bills like these are going around everywhere especially in Special Education.
In 5-10 years, we will not have public education as we know it. There will be Charter and private schools for good kids. Public schools will be left with the rest. They will become like alternative schools where kids sit in a cubical and complete online curriculum.
In 5-10 years, we will not have public education as we know it. There will be Charter and private schools for good kids. Public schools will be left with the rest. They will become like alternative schools where kids sit in a cubical and complete online curriculum.
Posted on 4/26/24 at 5:26 pm to Downeast12
seems reasonable
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Under the new law, schools will have to provide advance notice of a disciplinary hearing, with information detailing their behavior and how it violated the code of conduct. Students will be allowed to have a lawyer at their hearings.
Students will also be able to review any recordings or documentation of the incident, and question witnesses at the hearing as long as they are older than 14.
The law will require that the school provide a detailed statement with the disciplinary decision, including the relevant code that was violated and what will be included in the student’s record.
The bill, HB188, passed the senate with 32 votes in favor and none against. There were two senators, William Beasley and Merika Coleman, who passed. It passed the House on April 4 by a vote of 96-5 with two abstentions.
Posted on 4/26/24 at 5:27 pm to SwampyWaters
Demographics
Posted on 4/26/24 at 5:52 pm to SwampyWaters
For much of the country, sending your kids to public school is practically child abuse.
Posted on 4/26/24 at 7:38 pm to SwampyWaters
These kids should be sent to trade schools if they cannot function in regular school settings. They will perform better in school under a different structure and be able to be productive members of society with what they have learned in school at a young age. Many are going to end up where they would have ended up anyway, even with trade school, but at least this gives them a second chance at something they could actually do.
The square peg the government keeps trying to fit into a round hole doesn’t work for education.
Regardless, the privileged will continue to excel in this country. Those that focus on family and education are the privileged in the US. A focus on those two things greatly increases odds of success here.
The square peg the government keeps trying to fit into a round hole doesn’t work for education.
Regardless, the privileged will continue to excel in this country. Those that focus on family and education are the privileged in the US. A focus on those two things greatly increases odds of success here.
Posted on 4/26/24 at 7:38 pm to FartinLutherKing
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Students will also be able to review any recordings or documentation of the incident, and question witnesses at the hearing as long as they are older than 14.
So now if your child witnesses an a-hole tearing up the school, the a-hole has the right to interrogate your child.
Great job Bama! BTW, this is law in La already
Posted on 4/26/24 at 7:40 pm to FartinLutherKing
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Under the new law, schools will have to provide advance notice of a disciplinary hearing, with information detailing their behavior and how it violated the code of conduct. Students will be allowed to have a lawyer at their hearings.
Students will also be able to review any recordings or documentation of the incident, and question witnesses at the hearing as long as they are older than 14.
The law will require that the school provide a detailed statement with the disciplinary decision, including the relevant code that was violated and what will be included in the student’s record.
The bill, HB188, passed the senate with 32 votes in favor and none against. There were two senators, William Beasley and Merika Coleman, who passed. It passed the House on April 4 by a vote of 96-5 with two abstentions.
Where is the problem?
Posted on 4/26/24 at 7:41 pm to CoachChappy
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So now if your child witnesses an a-hole tearing up the school, the a-hole has the right to interrogate your child.
What if that kid accuses your child and your child is getting the boot?
Due process is not a bad thing
Posted on 4/26/24 at 7:51 pm to CoachChappy
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Bills like these are going around everywhere especially in Special Education.
They don't have a classroom just for special ed kids?
That's how it was when I was in school. You had honors classes, then the average kids was in regular classes then they had an area for the special ed kids. Some of them I think took a few normal classes, but the ones who had behavior problems.. I remember there was one that used to freak out if someone would make a "buzzzzzz" sound. He would cover his ears and run wild and the special ed teacher had to calm him down.
It was funny at the time but kind of messed up thinking about it now. Sometimes the teacher would bring him to the main building when everyone was in class and if someone in class saw him, all of a sudden people would make the buzz sound then everything would go quiet while he freaked out running around the halls trying to get away from it. So kids like that.. they let in regular classes now?
Posted on 4/26/24 at 8:00 pm to OweO
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They don't have a classroom just for special ed kids?
I visited my nephew's kindergarten class one time. They had a kid with his own attendant, strapped into some kind of harness to keep him upright, with a breathing tube. I'm pretty sure he wasn't conscious.
Posted on 4/26/24 at 9:43 pm to FartinLutherKing
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seems reasonable
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Students will be allowed to have a lawyer at their hearings.
Posted on 4/26/24 at 9:52 pm to SwampyWaters
I am having a hard time seeing how this is a bad thing.
Posted on 4/26/24 at 9:58 pm to novabill
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Students will also be able to review any recordings or documentation of the incident, and question witnesses at the hearing as long as they are older than 14.
That is not a good course of action. It is not a courtroom, it’s a classroom. The burden of proof should be less, as it is now. You are getting thugs out of schools, not sentencing them to prison.
Posted on 4/26/24 at 10:06 pm to SwampyWaters
I am not sure I agree if it includes a broad definition of exclusionary discipline including just a removal from the classroom. Some advocacy groups seem to include any removal from class. Also not sure what constitutes long term suspension in state.
For expulsion or forced school change I can see this, but I am not sure on suspensions including in school suspensions especially if they have to be allowed back in class to disrupt other students while hearing is set up.
For expulsion or forced school change I can see this, but I am not sure on suspensions including in school suspensions especially if they have to be allowed back in class to disrupt other students while hearing is set up.
This post was edited on 4/28/24 at 12:48 pm
Posted on 4/26/24 at 10:22 pm to SwampyWaters
What does the bill say exactly?
Posted on 4/26/24 at 10:40 pm to CR4090
I sat in a meeting today with a Senator and a Representative from Alabama. I can tell you they are clueless of the people and world around them.
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