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re: WTF! Alabama legislators pass bill making it even tougher to get rid of bad kids!
Posted on 4/26/24 at 10:44 pm to SwampyWaters
Posted on 4/26/24 at 10:44 pm to SwampyWaters
What if a kid tells the teacher that her woke BS is BS and gets kicked out of school. Would this be an avenue to shine a light on that BS?
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Posted on 4/26/24 at 11:00 pm to markthetiger
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You are getting thugs out of schools, not sentencing them to prison.
To a large degree, one begets the other so it shouldn't be taken lightly.
Posted on 4/27/24 at 5:25 am to SwampyWaters
quote:it starts in the womb of the drug addicted, abused, neglected single mothers.
if you're wondering why Alabama test scores are crashing and more and more teachers are leaving education
Posted on 4/27/24 at 7:52 am to CoachChappy
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In 5-10 years, we will not have public education as we know it. There will be Charter and private schools for good kids. Public schools will be left with the rest. They will become like alternative schools where kids sit in a cubical and complete online curriculum.
Should have done this years ago
Posted on 4/27/24 at 7:59 am to STLDawg
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For much of the country, sending your kids to public school is practically child abuse.
That’s why you gotta find the Mountain Brooks. It’s like free private school.
St George will be similar.
Posted on 4/27/24 at 8:31 am to FartinLutherKing
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Under the new law, schools will have to provide advance notice of a disciplinary hearing, with information detailing their behavior and how it violated the code of conduct. Students will be allowed to have a lawyer at their hearings.
Crazy. As many businesses move toward arbitration to curb extensive litigation costs, it seems the schools are moving toward more extensive due process methods. Also are parents really going to pay $200/hour for "detention lawyers" to show up and argue?
Our high school told us we were entitled to due process but that all sides were limited in time, scope, and personnel. Unless a real crime was committed, at which point it was referred to the police, you had your day in court and moved on.
Posted on 4/27/24 at 8:41 am to CoachChappy
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So now if your child witnesses an a-hole tearing up the school, the a-hole has the right to interrogate your child.
Two things:
1. This is how it works in the real world.
2. Without a summons they can't force your child to participate in anything you don't want them to.
Posted on 4/27/24 at 9:13 am to FartinLutherKing
Lawyers.
Posted on 4/27/24 at 10:39 am to imjustafatkid
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I am having a hard time seeing how this is a bad thing.
Due process is necessary. Creating even more red tape to have to wade through is not.
Posted on 4/27/24 at 10:41 am to SwampyWaters
Good and Bad. Helps aggressors, hurts good kids who confide in a teacher for help. Yes, it helps the falsely accused but you gotta shell out money to protect your child now or nothing gets done.
Posted on 4/27/24 at 10:47 am to SwampyWaters
Let's make sure the slippery, disinterested and violent crowd at school have tons of protections. Then, do nothing to provide an education to the interested, and protections against the illiterate rabble.
I'm not talking about the special education students.
I'm not talking about the special education students.
Posted on 4/27/24 at 10:50 am to OweO
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They don't have a classroom just for special ed kids?
That's how it was when I was in school. You had honors classes, then the average kids was in regular classes then they had an area for the special ed kids
that's the way it was in Ala until very late 80's early 90's. My wife went to public schools in mid 80's. had very few classes with the unteachables.
they called it "leveling". I assume lawyers and sociologists got involved and put the kibosh on that. now everyone's the same. same for the severely handicapped. put em in with the rest.
Posted on 4/27/24 at 1:38 pm to FartinLutherKing
Apparently, you are not a public school teacher because students already have too many rights!
Let a kid curse you, assault you, destroy school property, bring and sell drugs, assault staff and other students, bring weapons, steal anything they can get their hands on and nothing is done to them and you won't have that same perspective! Schools are supposed to be a place to learn, not help thugs/punks facilitate their drug operation and other illegal activities!
Let a kid curse you, assault you, destroy school property, bring and sell drugs, assault staff and other students, bring weapons, steal anything they can get their hands on and nothing is done to them and you won't have that same perspective! Schools are supposed to be a place to learn, not help thugs/punks facilitate their drug operation and other illegal activities!
Posted on 4/27/24 at 1:41 pm to SwampyWaters
Been like that in Louisiana. They do not want kids suspended.
Posted on 4/27/24 at 1:43 pm to FartinLutherKing
This sounds like just a due process hearing to determine placement- which will be an “Alternative school” at worst.
Posted on 4/27/24 at 3:22 pm to OweO
It's a complete joke! If a student has a criminal record, violent or nonviolent, teachers and parents are not notified because that child has rights, and apparently, staff, parents and the good students have none!
Posted on 4/27/24 at 3:29 pm to markthetiger
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That is not a good course of action. It is not a courtroom, it’s a classroom. The burden of proof should be less, as it is now. You are getting thugs out of schools, not sentencing them to prison
They also remove kids for saying illegal aliens.
I think that kid deserves his day?
Goose and gander....
This post was edited on 4/27/24 at 3:32 pm
Posted on 4/28/24 at 11:31 am to Quatrepot
You don't understand that alternative schools are a joke and the student that just assaulted your child is right back sitting next to your child a few weeks later.
Also, alternative schools only have about 10 students in each class, which means some of the thugs/thiefs are sent right back to school with a few days suspension because alternative schools are full. Would you call 10 students in a class full?
Every public school district in the country needs to have several alternative schools that kids are there all year and have normal classroom sizes. No victim should be forced to go to school with the thug/punk that assaulted them. If they're full, make room for them like regular schools are required to do. I have one class of almost 40, so don't tell me they can't make space.
FYI, those stories you see on school violence in the news, doesn't come close to telling the real story. Guns, knives and drugs are found every day on school campuses and violent assaults also occur every day!
The reality is those administrators that oversee public schools around the country are more worried about perception, not reality! Getting rid of a violent student shouldn't be a long drawn out process because the ones that suffer the most are the good students that are eager to learn.
Also, alternative schools only have about 10 students in each class, which means some of the thugs/thiefs are sent right back to school with a few days suspension because alternative schools are full. Would you call 10 students in a class full?
Every public school district in the country needs to have several alternative schools that kids are there all year and have normal classroom sizes. No victim should be forced to go to school with the thug/punk that assaulted them. If they're full, make room for them like regular schools are required to do. I have one class of almost 40, so don't tell me they can't make space.
FYI, those stories you see on school violence in the news, doesn't come close to telling the real story. Guns, knives and drugs are found every day on school campuses and violent assaults also occur every day!
The reality is those administrators that oversee public schools around the country are more worried about perception, not reality! Getting rid of a violent student shouldn't be a long drawn out process because the ones that suffer the most are the good students that are eager to learn.
Posted on 4/28/24 at 11:40 am to Asharad
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it starts in the womb of the drug addicted, abused, neglected single mothers.
Really makes you think.
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