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re: WSJ/NBC poll : Majority of Americans worried about opening up too quickly

Posted on 4/19/20 at 10:05 am to
Posted by saintsfan22
baton rouge
Member since May 2006
80939 posts
Posted on 4/19/20 at 10:05 am to
All polls that don't agree with me are lies
Posted by tiger91
In my own little world
Member since Nov 2005
40269 posts
Posted on 4/19/20 at 10:06 am to
Personally I’m not.

Why can’t they just say “if you want to open and have the staff to do it then open. If you don’t want to go out and do xyz, then stay home. But if you want to go to get a haircut or to hobby lobby then go!”

Personal choices. Freedom of choice. Aren’t we supposed to have that???
Posted by East Coast Band
Member since Nov 2010
67020 posts
Posted on 4/19/20 at 10:06 am to
I can assure you that 95% of those that already were living off the government dime don't want to open anything back up anytime soon.

Those who are still earning a living just as they were are probably mixed about opening up things.

Those that need an income are 100% ready to get this shite over with.

It's probably very distinct poll stats per particular group.
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
52640 posts
Posted on 4/19/20 at 10:06 am to
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This is common practice in survey methodology. Statistically speaking ... oh frick it, I'm not going to explain it to you because you don't like what the poll says and you'll just ignore whatever I say.


This is the same polling method that told us Clinton was going to beat Trump in a landslide. Yet, here we are.
Posted by Ronaldo Burgundiaz
NWA
Member since Jan 2012
6795 posts
Posted on 4/19/20 at 10:06 am to
quote:

> 60% trusts their governor
Now that is scary.
Posted by TxTiger82
Member since Sep 2004
34329 posts
Posted on 4/19/20 at 10:06 am to
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The majority of Americans are easily influenced sheep.



Interesting that this is the only response y'all can come up with, and almost all of you have done it. The poll doesn't say what you like, so people must be idiots. If the poll had said what you want it to say, you'd be using it as evidence that so-and-so Democratic governor is really a motherfricker, etc.
Posted by TypoKnig
Member since Aug 2011
8928 posts
Posted on 4/19/20 at 10:06 am to
No I don’t like how you generalize a 900 person survey by saying majority of Americans and not majority of those polled or how the article states.....

quote:

Nearly 60 percent of American voters say they are more concerned that a relaxation of stay-at-home restrictions would lead to more COVID-19 deaths than they are that those restrictions will hurt the U.S. economy, according to a new national NBC News/Wall Street Journal poll.

Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
78048 posts
Posted on 4/19/20 at 10:07 am to
That doesn’t really mean anything.

Even those who want to open things up have that worry.

Also, as stated, this isn’t 60% of Americans.

It is 60% of those polled.
This post was edited on 4/19/20 at 10:10 am
Posted by TxTiger82
Member since Sep 2004
34329 posts
Posted on 4/19/20 at 10:08 am to
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This is the same polling method that told us Clinton was going to beat Trump in a landslide. Yet, here we are.



In 2016 they miscalculated who is a "likely" voter. Fundamental flaw in the polling. This is a poll of registered voters, though. More restrictive population.
Posted by Lsupimp
Ersatz Amerika-97.6% phony & fake
Member since Nov 2003
86519 posts
Posted on 4/19/20 at 10:08 am to
Until we eliminate ALL risk , the terrorists have won. I personally favor all Americans living in bunkers for decades while The Ruling Class and their army of infallible experts formulate a game plan that guarantees that no American will ever have a bad outcome of any kind. If you disagree you hate science.
Posted by NorthEndZone
Member since Dec 2008
14625 posts
Posted on 4/19/20 at 10:09 am to
ONE person out of every 100,000 people outside of New York has died of this per week since this started - about 7 in seven weeks

And 60% are worried. Now I know why most of the US is so bad at math.
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
52640 posts
Posted on 4/19/20 at 10:09 am to
quote:

In 2016 they miscalculated who is a "likely" voter. Fundamental flaw in the polling. This is a poll of registered voters, though. More restrictive population.


Posted by tigerinthebueche
Member since Oct 2010
38241 posts
Posted on 4/19/20 at 10:10 am to
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Before you accuse the poll of being biased, remember that the Wall Street Journal is a right-leaning business paper owned by Murdoch.



Lol If you think the WSJ is some right-leaning publication. Murdoch is dead and his liberal kids have taken over. Don’t think for a moment they are fair and balanced because they aren’t.
Posted by SHOtime Tiger
Member since Aug 2019
1361 posts
Posted on 4/19/20 at 10:11 am to
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No concern whatsoever if 75% of the other states not hit bad open tomorrow though.


Awesome, now give me a criteria for “not hit bad” that we can use to in determining which 75% of the remaining 49 states are allowed to open and also decide travel restrictions
Posted by deathvalleytiger10
Member since Sep 2009
9426 posts
Posted on 4/19/20 at 10:12 am to
Redo the poll the moment unemployment benefits stop, stimulus checks are spent and the moment their boss calls to say they have lost their job permanently as the business has shuttered.
Posted by TxTiger82
Member since Sep 2004
34329 posts
Posted on 4/19/20 at 10:12 am to
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I don’t like how you generalize a 900 person survey


Sample size affects statistical power, not generalizability. Generalizability comes from representativeness. So long as the sample reflects the underlying population, the results are generalizable.

N = 600 is a sufficient sample size for testing basic hypotheses in a survey sample.
N = 1500 is sufficient for testing complex mediation or moderation processes.
N = 900 is perfectly fine for providing a descriptive snapshot of how respondents answered a few questions.
This post was edited on 4/19/20 at 10:13 am
Posted by SCLibertarian
Conway, South Carolina
Member since Aug 2013
42702 posts
Posted on 4/19/20 at 10:14 am to
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The poll doesn't say what you like, so people must be idiots

The American people have time and again elected politicians who have spent us to $22 trillion in debt.

The American people have time and again elected politicians who thrust us into war after war, solely for the financial benefit of the ruling class.

The American people have time and again elected politicians who spy on them and collect their data without any probable cause whatsoever.

The American people have time and again elected politicians who have created a two-tiered justice system, where we are thrown the book for the same crimes they routinely get away with.

There can be no doubt that the American people, by and large, are complete idiots.
Posted by GeorgeTheGreek
Sparta, Greece
Member since Mar 2008
69590 posts
Posted on 4/19/20 at 10:15 am to
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The majority of Americans are easily influenced sheep.

Congrats, I guess.


Agreed. People that only read TD are heavily influenced sheep.
Posted by TxTiger82
Member since Sep 2004
34329 posts
Posted on 4/19/20 at 10:17 am to
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The American people have time and again elected politicians who have spent us to $22 trillion in debt.


Trump spent $3 trillion in the last couple of weeks. He is outpacing Obama at this point. Not sure whether you support him or not, but if you do I'd take a look in the mirror.
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
78048 posts
Posted on 4/19/20 at 10:19 am to
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900 is perfectly fine for providing a descriptive snapshot of how respondents answered a few questions
Depending on application/obtaining of the 900.

How widespread are the respondents? Are some from all areas of the US?

Are the majority localized in NY, NJ, etc.?

That matters heavily.

That is an important component of studies like this.

Is the information generalizable to the US as a whole?
This post was edited on 4/19/20 at 10:20 am
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