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re: WSJ: "Insurers Rake In Profits as Customers Pay Soaring Premiums"
Posted on 1/25/24 at 1:28 pm to AllsGroovn
Posted on 1/25/24 at 1:28 pm to AllsGroovn
.....and we criticize lawyers who look to get some of that money back via ambulance chasing.
No one is pure in this game....no one
Posted on 1/25/24 at 1:58 pm to AirbusDawg
I had Safeco auto coverage for 2 cars, just my wife and I. 1st year was (monthly) $225, 2nd year, $265, 3rd year $296. Their quote to renew us this time was at $396. Not a single ticket or accident during that time.
Went online the other day and did the runaround, ended up signing on with Progressive for $247. Could've had it even cheaper if I agreed to have that deal in my truck that tracks my driving but that feels sketchy.
Happy for now, but I'm sure at renewal they'll play the same game Safeco did.
Went online the other day and did the runaround, ended up signing on with Progressive for $247. Could've had it even cheaper if I agreed to have that deal in my truck that tracks my driving but that feels sketchy.
Happy for now, but I'm sure at renewal they'll play the same game Safeco did.
Posted on 1/25/24 at 1:59 pm to ExtraGravy
This is all a smoke screen to hide the fact they are applying DEI criteria to reduce the wealth gap between races AND use that as "just cause" with regulators for those allowed rate hikes which nets huge profits.
Because that's all DEI is, in any application, a justification to rip somebody off.
Because that's all DEI is, in any application, a justification to rip somebody off.
Posted on 1/25/24 at 2:05 pm to PeteRose
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It’s so strange how in our culture we are insured up to our neck….house, cars, health insurance, life, renters. But when I travel back to my old country in SE Asia, people don’t have any insurance. You’d think it’s crazy with no insurance but life is business as usual.
So how does it work? People insure themselves?
Posted on 1/25/24 at 7:48 pm to ExtraGravy
Thank your local scum Plaintiff Attorney.
Posted on 1/25/24 at 7:56 pm to PeteRose
Yeah there were a few students from Saudi Arabia in my insurance and risk management class in grad school. It took them a while to understand how it worked.
Posted on 1/25/24 at 8:00 pm to AirbusDawg
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When I called to say I'm not renewing with Allstate, asked why? I said your increase is insane. His reply, well I could have probably gotten it down a little for you.
When an Allstate agent says that they don’t mean rate they will raise deductibles and lower coverages
Posted on 1/25/24 at 8:02 pm to AirbusDawg
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Seems like the longer you stay with your insurance company, the more they screw you. Had Allstate for 8 years and my car insurance went up by $2300 this six month period. Granted, I have four cars with two adult kids age 23 and 21, but no new claims or violations. They wanted to go from $5300 to $7600 for six months. Absolutely ridiculous. Ended up switching to another company and saved 50%.. I'm sure when it renews it will get jacked up, but bottom line, you should shop around every two to three years. When I called to say I'm not renewing with Allstate, asked why? I said your increase is insane. His reply, well I could have probably gotten it down a little for you.
What an amazing story.
Posted on 1/25/24 at 8:07 pm to ExtraGravy
So when they lost fifteen years of profit 16 years after they lost 100 yrs of profit they should wait a year and act like it will never happen again?
If Louisiana were to have on home an 85%Combined ratio which means that for every dollar they take in the make $0.15 it would take 24 years just to offset the losses in 2021. Is it reasonable to believe they won’t Have any more storms for 24 years? Is that a good bet?
If Louisiana were to have on home an 85%Combined ratio which means that for every dollar they take in the make $0.15 it would take 24 years just to offset the losses in 2021. Is it reasonable to believe they won’t Have any more storms for 24 years? Is that a good bet?
Posted on 1/25/24 at 8:07 pm to ExtraGravy
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... One factor in the run-up in insurance stocks: the recent willingness of regulators to allow large rate increases, even in states traditionally seen as tough on the industry. Last month, Allstate won approval for auto-insurance rate increases of 30% in California, 17% in New Jersey and 15% in New York. The company had threatened to stop renewing policies in those states after suffering losses.
That’s one way to stop tax receipts from bleeding as they drive more taxpayers out of state
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Posted on 1/25/24 at 8:32 pm to ExtraGravy
Reading all of these threads about insurance makes me want to keep my shitty, paid off car and never buy a house
Posted on 1/25/24 at 9:07 pm to ExtraGravy
I’m tired of hearing about “record profits.”
Which such a huge inflation spike, they can easily register “record profits” but actually have a reduction of purchasing power.
Report profit margins.
Of course, they don’t want to, because it doesn’t fit the narrative for like 90% of these stories.
Which such a huge inflation spike, they can easily register “record profits” but actually have a reduction of purchasing power.
Report profit margins.
Of course, they don’t want to, because it doesn’t fit the narrative for like 90% of these stories.
Posted on 1/25/24 at 9:22 pm to I20goon
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This is all a smoke screen to hide the fact they are applying DEI criteria to reduce the wealth gap between races AND use that as "just cause" with regulators for those allowed rate hikes which nets huge profits. Because that's all DEI is, in any application, a justification to rip somebody off.
Blaming DEI has officially jumped the shark.
Posted on 1/25/24 at 11:01 pm to AirbusDawg
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I have four cars with two adult kids age 23 and 21, but no new claims or violations. They wanted to go from $5300 to $7600 for six months. Absolutely ridiculous. Ended up switching to another company and saved 50%.. I'm sure when it renews it will get jacked up, but bottom line, you should shop around every two to three years. When I called to say I'm not renewing with Allstate, asked why? I said your increase is insane. His reply, well I could have probably gotten it down a little for you.
Dropped Allstate and went with Progressive online (no agent) and reduced my annual premium from $15k to $8500- same coverages and deductibles. Hope Progressive didnt give me a teaser introductory rate that will skyrocket at renewal, but if so, will just have to shop it. I suspect this may be their game, but any increase would probably still leave me below Allstate. If nothing else, I enjoyed the temporary savings.
Posted on 1/25/24 at 11:16 pm to Volvagia
Profit margins are a percentage of revenue.
When costs go up, insurance premiums goes up.
Keep a 3% profit margin and you are "having record profits".
Do you think journalists get clicks by talking common sense? Or by pissing people off with clickbait?
It isn't just insurance. Every industry working on a margin uses this model. Hell... even your property tax assessors scam 2% off the gross (and they have zero risk of throwing a loss on the books)
When costs go up, insurance premiums goes up.
Keep a 3% profit margin and you are "having record profits".
Do you think journalists get clicks by talking common sense? Or by pissing people off with clickbait?
It isn't just insurance. Every industry working on a margin uses this model. Hell... even your property tax assessors scam 2% off the gross (and they have zero risk of throwing a loss on the books)
Posted on 1/26/24 at 2:57 am to ExtraGravy
This maybe touching a third rail but insurance and marketing by paying athletes millions in endorsement deals and multimillion dollar sponsorship deals to be the official sponsor of EXYZ Sportscenter or Game Day ALive.
This post was edited on 1/26/24 at 3:25 am
Posted on 1/26/24 at 4:27 am to ExtraGravy
Quick, time for big insurance to fund a PR campaign to smear “trial lawyers” and make the public forget insurance companies are going to increase your premiums 15% per year no matter what.
Posted on 1/26/24 at 4:45 am to ExtraGravy
Well, duh. It's Biden's America.
Posted on 1/26/24 at 6:03 am to RFK
How many slip and falls did you sign up this week?
Posted on 1/26/24 at 6:31 am to AllsGroovn
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sucks, but it's how it all works.
Get out of here with your logic!
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