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re: WSJ: "Insurers Rake In Profits as Customers Pay Soaring Premiums"

Posted on 1/26/24 at 6:36 am to
Posted by lepdagod
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2015
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Posted on 1/26/24 at 6:36 am to
I thought the idiots on here said the bill boards with personal injury lawyers were the reason insurance rates were so high... and the insurance companies hands where completely clean
Posted by Jcorye1
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Member since Dec 2007
72622 posts
Posted on 1/26/24 at 6:37 am to
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Seems like the longer you stay with your insurance company, the more they screw you. Had Allstate for 8 years and my car insurance went up by $2300 this six month period. Granted, I have four cars with two adult kids age 23 and 21, but no new claims or violations. They wanted to go from $5300 to $7600 for six months. Absolutely ridiculous. Ended up switching to another company and saved 50%.. I'm sure when it renews it will get jacked up, but bottom line, you should shop around every two to three years.

When I called to say I'm not renewing with Allstate, asked why? I said your increase is insane. His reply, well I could have probably gotten it down a little for you.


Sounds like most things in life. Budgets are always hire for new business and new employees. Shop around every 2 years at the absolute minimum.
Posted by Jcorye1
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Posted on 1/26/24 at 6:38 am to
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I thought the idiots on here said the bill boards with personal injury lawyers were the reason insurance rates were so high... and the insurance companies hands where completely clean



Ambulance chasers are definitely part of the problem, but nobodies has are clean.
Posted by Galactic Inquisitor
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Member since Dec 2013
15664 posts
Posted on 1/26/24 at 6:43 am to
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His reply, well I could have probably gotten it down a little for you


"And that's why you lost my business, because you could have, but did not."
Posted by Seeker
Member since Jul 2011
1860 posts
Posted on 1/26/24 at 6:44 am to
As an insurance agent, I would advise anyone to use a dual approach to keeping your rates down (pre-Ida rates are not there). Find a local independent agent. Post the question on social media and you will get recommendations. Let them quote all the options they have for the area. Then call State Farm, All State, Farm Bureau.

Depending on the area, sometimes independent agents have better options. Sometimes single line carriers have better products. The market will swing back, but it will be slow.

If your rate is doubling, it isn’t uncommon, it doesn’t mean you can’t do better.
Posted by lepdagod
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2015
3710 posts
Posted on 1/26/24 at 6:46 am to
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Ambulance chasers are definitely part of the problem,


According to the OT... insurance companies would lower our rates in Louisiana if people would stop holding them financially responsible for accidents they chose to take liability for in case of said accident
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
114297 posts
Posted on 1/26/24 at 6:49 am to
Does accountability include the six months of chiro visits and injections for a fender bender? Or the surgical recommendation that the Plaintiff never intends to follow through with?
Posted by lepdagod
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2015
3710 posts
Posted on 1/26/24 at 6:55 am to
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Does accountability include the six months of chiro visits and injections for a fender bender? Or the surgical recommendation that the Plaintiff never intends to follow through with?


Did they collect premiums or not???...
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
114297 posts
Posted on 1/26/24 at 6:56 am to
I think my point went over your head
Posted by lepdagod
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2015
3710 posts
Posted on 1/26/24 at 6:58 am to
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think my point went over your head


It didn't... do you get mines though???
Posted by AUFANATL
Member since Dec 2007
4232 posts
Posted on 1/26/24 at 7:05 am to
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Blaming DEI has officially jumped the shark.


I don't think there is a DEI problem here but there is definitely a "community" issue that involves politics, morality and demographics.

Insurance is simply pooling risk and claims across as broad a spectrum as you can. When the city of Memphis has three car jackings a day, the rates go up for everybody, even the people in Mayberry who have never had a carjacking. When Louisianna gets hit by three hurricaines in less than a year, the rate goes up for everybody even people living in the Nevada desert. When a bunch of agitated people throw a political temper tantrum and get goaded into a four month "mostly peaceful" protest that causes billions of dollars in damage, the rates go up for everybody, even the "try that in a small town" small towners. When sanctuary cities invite millions of inexperienced immigrant drivers to drive on their roads without insurane, the rates go up for everybody. When local legal systems allow ambulance chasers and forum shopped juries to redistribute wealth, the rates go up for everybody, even places that have strict tort reform and conservative jury pools.


So here's my brilliant idea. Start a NEW insurance company that ONLY underwrites policies that bundle home and auto claims in states/counties that behave responsibly. Only home owners in safe, conservative areas go into the pool. Air commercials that push this narrative. Military, law enforcement and first responders get a discount. Loyalty gets a discount, not a rate hike. The safer your community, the more you save. Let liberals pay for their own mess.
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
114297 posts
Posted on 1/26/24 at 7:19 am to
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Get mines
Posted by lepdagod
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2015
3710 posts
Posted on 1/26/24 at 7:20 am to
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Let liberals pay for their own mess.


OK... some of the poorest areas in this state conservative MAGA loving patriots... what about them
Posted by Sofaking2
Member since Apr 2023
8605 posts
Posted on 1/26/24 at 7:30 am to
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Seems like the longer you stay with your insurance company, the more they screw you.

This is the case for many things now. Loyalty is punished or not rewarded, but switching is rewarded.
Posted by Screaming Viking
Member since Jul 2013
4802 posts
Posted on 1/26/24 at 7:39 am to
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quote:
His reply, well I could have probably gotten it down a little for you


"And that's why you lost my business, because you could have, but did not."


for what reason did this get a DV? must be a well to do insurance agent....because there are zero poor ones.
Posted by Slickback
Deer Stand
Member since Mar 2008
27737 posts
Posted on 1/26/24 at 8:14 am to
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because there are zero poor ones.


I’ve watched several agency owners file bankruptcy and several agents that are slapdick broke.
Posted by SouthMSReb
Member since Dec 2013
4469 posts
Posted on 1/26/24 at 9:24 am to
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Quick, time for big insurance to fund a PR campaign to smear “trial lawyers” and make the public forget insurance companies are going to increase your premiums 15% per year no matter what.


This is so stupid it hurts.
Posted by Displaced
Member since Dec 2011
32764 posts
Posted on 1/26/24 at 9:29 am to
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"I bet my house is going to get destroyed" - me

"I bet it won't" - Farm Bureau

"How much you wanna bet?" - me

"$3000?' - Farm Bureau

"I'll take that action" - me

You're forgetting this part:

Me: what odds do I get?

Farm bureau: +15000
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
37858 posts
Posted on 1/26/24 at 10:04 am to
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This is the case for many things now. Loyalty is punished or not rewarded, but switching is rewarded.


Correct. People take their customers, employees, etc for granted.

Meanwhile turnover is stupid more expensive.

It's MUCH cheaper to keep a current customer or employer happy, then to find a new one.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
37858 posts
Posted on 1/26/24 at 10:08 am to
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So when they lost fifteen years of profit 16 years after they lost 100 yrs of profit they should wait a year and act like it will never happen again?

If Louisiana were to have on home an 85%Combined ratio which means that for every dollar they take in the make $0.15 it would take 24 years just to offset the losses in 2021. Is it reasonable to believe they won’t Have any more storms for 24 years? Is that a good bet?


Do those figures include all the investment returns that such 15 cents generated?

Maybe insurance companies shouldn't pay dividends to shareholders. Keep all profits invested for future issues.

Maybe mutual insurance was the right way all along.
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