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re: Would you be in favor of a tracking chip?
Posted on 7/17/19 at 11:38 pm to brass2mouth
Posted on 7/17/19 at 11:38 pm to brass2mouth
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simply saying you are already being tracked to the extent and then some that OP posted about.
The existence of the information isn’t the issue here. It’s who has access to it, what has to be done to get to it, and whether or not I’m giving it voluntarily.
You’re saying this info is “easily obtained with a warrant”...how easy is the warrant to get when you have zero probable cause? Because that’s what we’re talking about here. Government agencies, right down to local law enforcement, that can query a location and time and find everyone that was there. Then, take any of those names and pull up their location history in a matter of seconds.
That isn’t even remotely close to “Google and Apple have my location history”. And again, if I don’t want to be tracked going forward, I can always get rid of my phone.
This post was edited on 7/17/19 at 11:42 pm
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Posted on 7/17/19 at 11:56 pm to TigersHuskers
No OP you dumbass
Posted on 7/18/19 at 12:18 am to StupidBinder
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Hell, you don’t even have to do that. Just throw it in airplane mode. Boom. You’re a ghost.
You may want to look into that more if you are relying on it. That just cuts off pinging data.
Posted on 7/18/19 at 12:49 am to Globetrotter747
I wish it also had your money and car starter
Posted on 7/18/19 at 12:57 am to Globetrotter747
I just carry a cell phone.
Posted on 7/18/19 at 6:06 am to StupidBinder
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How wouldn’t it? You’d have to give this to every agency that would potentially be investigating a homicide. And time is of the essence in investigations like this, so what are you going to do? How are you going to restrict access to that info within every single agency in the country?
If a murder took place at 123 4th Street around midnight and someone has to sort through the fact that you were at your wife's best friend's house across town at that time, then no, that's too imprecise. No one is sorting through 350+ million Americans individually to figure this shite out. But if they can zero in and determine the specific people who were at the crime scene at the time the murder took place, well, I think that just might be useful.
And this tech wouldn't have to be readily available at the local level. If there's a murder in Jerkwater, Louisiana, they can contact Baton Rouge or New Orleans or Washington and ask who was at a particular address at a certain time. Deputy Smith who lives in your small town and hates your guts because you screwed his wife isn't going to be monitoring your whereabouts.
The way some people talk on here I'm surprised you have cell phones, computers and credit cards - all of which open up a very significant entrance into your private life.
Posted on 7/18/19 at 6:15 am to Globetrotter747
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The way some people talk on here I'm surprised you have cell phones, computers and credit cards - all of which open up a very significant entrance into your private life.
You're surprised people are wary of a tracking chip that the government can use to track your every move?
Strange.
Posted on 7/18/19 at 6:37 am to RogerTheShrubber
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You're surprised people are wary of a tracking chip that the government can use to track your every move?
Strange.
As long as the information is kept confidential and the tech involved significantly improves law enforcement to the point that it is almost impossible to get away with a major crime I don’t care if the government watches me like I’m on The Truman Show, even though that wouldn’t be the case.
This post was edited on 7/18/19 at 6:38 am
Posted on 7/18/19 at 7:16 am to Globetrotter747
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As long as the information is kept confidential
The very fact that somebody is tracking your every movement and all they’d have to do is look up your name or ssn and have your every single movement you’ve made and then can distribute all that information to various other parties belies its so-called confidentiality.
Posted on 7/18/19 at 7:17 am to Globetrotter747
No you fricking psycho
Posted on 7/18/19 at 7:18 am to Globetrotter747
that's the job of cell phones, sir
Posted on 7/18/19 at 7:23 am to Globetrotter747
No, because I'm not a criminal and wouldn't appreciate having to be assumed one.
Sex offenders and violent felons who've somehow managed to get back on the streets? Chip 'em.
Sex offenders and violent felons who've somehow managed to get back on the streets? Chip 'em.
Posted on 7/18/19 at 7:41 am to Globetrotter747
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I think that just might be useful.
There are lots of things that might be “useful” from a law enforcement perspective.
Doing away with the 4th amendment would be useful but no one is lining up to advocate for that either.
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And this tech wouldn't have to be readily available at the local level. If there's a murder in Jerkwater, Louisiana, they can contact Baton Rouge or New Orleans or Washington and ask who was at a particular address at a certain time. Deputy Smith who lives in your small town and hates your guts because you screwed his wife isn't going to be monitoring your whereabouts.
So is there supposed to be a significant difference in integrity and competence between the law enforcement in Baton Rouge or New Orleans and law enforcement in podunk?
Again, it’s not just someone being malevolent that you need to be worrying about. People with good intentions misuse data all the time in ways that harm others.
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The way some people talk on here I'm surprised you have cell phones, computers and credit cards - all of which open up a very significant entrance into your private life.
I’ve described the difference between what we have today and what your proposing at the top of the page.
This post was edited on 7/18/19 at 7:42 am
Posted on 7/18/19 at 7:46 am to Globetrotter747
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As long as the information is kept confidential
You are incredibly stupid.
Posted on 7/18/19 at 7:53 am to Centinel
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You are incredibly stupid.
It’s like Wikileaks, DNC hacking, Valerie Plame etc, never happened.
Not sure if it’s stupidity, but it’s insanely naive to believe that 100s of government agencies at multiple levels are going to share data with this kind of value, and it will never be leaked or hacked.
This post was edited on 7/18/19 at 7:54 am
Posted on 7/18/19 at 7:58 am to StupidBinder
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Not sure if it’s stupidity, but it’s insanely naive to believe that 100s of government agencies at multiple levels are going to share data with this kind of value, and it will never be leaked or hacked.
I’d be much less concerned with it being leaked as I would what the government would do with such power in their hands.
Posted on 7/18/19 at 8:00 am to Globetrotter747
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What are you afraid of?
Nothing at the moment. But what happens when the government decides your political thinking is a crime and the people you associate are dangerous?
I’m currently listening to a podcast series on the French Revolution and that is exactly what happened. The original revolutionaries, the ones who started it, were eventually deemed not revolutionary enough, arrested, convicted, and killed by the new government.
This is an extreme example in terms of how quickly it happened, but this has occurred in literally every government ever.
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But its going to be recorded. What happens when that info falls into the wrong hands... like when that person crosses the wrong people and he needs to pay?
We already have massive security breaches all the time. It’s inevitable
Posted on 7/18/19 at 8:00 am to Mike da Tigah
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I’d be much less concerned with it being leaked as I would what the government would do with such power in their hands.
Agree 100%. Just pointing out yet another reason why this is a terrible idea
Posted on 7/18/19 at 8:01 am to Globetrotter747
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So you think it's more important to keep your grocery store trip confidential from a group of government nobodies than for a murder to solved or prevented?
Yes. Not because of the government today, but because of the government in the future
Posted on 7/18/19 at 8:06 am to Oilfieldbiology
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This is an extreme example in terms of how quickly it happened, but this has occurred in literally every government ever.
This arse clown has never cracked open a book on history. You didn’t even have to go as far as the French Revolution. You could’ve just gone to Soviet Russia to see what governments would do with something like this.
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