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re: Would you be in favor of a tracking chip?

Posted on 7/17/19 at 6:50 pm to
Posted by Stiles
Member since Sep 2017
3458 posts
Posted on 7/17/19 at 6:50 pm to
No.

I turn my work phone off as soon as I’m off of work now. I use to have it on me as my primary 24/7 but ever since my company rolled out active Geo fencing I told them they lost that privilege. I’m back to my personal cell now and unless they’re going to pay me for standby, they can call that phone and I won’t answer.

Posted by Globetrotter747
Member since Sep 2017
5890 posts
Posted on 7/17/19 at 6:55 pm to
Let me ask a similar question...

If the TSA had body scans that showed you completely nude to some official in a bunker in another state but it would be part of a system that would make it virtually impossible for someone to take a gun, bomb, knife, box cutter, or some other weapon onto a plane, would you be okay with it? Would you allow someone you will never meet to see images of your naked body for assurance that there would never be another incident of terrorism involving planes?

If someone you knew and liked were murdered, would you trade some anonymous person *maybe* knowing you stopped by for ice cream somewhere if it meant the killer would be identified and caught instead of getting away, never facing the consequences, and possibly murdering someone else?
Posted by Cs
Member since Aug 2008
10681 posts
Posted on 7/17/19 at 6:56 pm to
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Would you be in favor of people having a type of chip implanted into them (let's say it cannot be tampered with or removed) that could be used to track anyone in the United States so that it can be determined who was at the scene when a significant crime (like murder or robbery) occurred?


This technology exists and allows every single American to be tracked with a high degree of geographic and temporal precision.

It's called a smartphone.

Most people don't realize that companies like Google and AT&T can literally create an entire map of your day to day routine. Where you're eating, shopping, what time you leave for work, where you work, etc.

Google receives requests from law enforcement agencies every day to unmask the data of individuals who were located near certain crimes.

The New York Times did an entire article on this exact topic.

quote:

The warrants, which draw on an enormous Google database employees call Sensorvault, turn the business of tracking cellphone users’ locations into a digital dragnet for law enforcement. In an era of ubiquitous data gathering by tech companies, it is just the latest example of how personal information — where you go, who your friends are, what you read, eat and watch, and when you do it — is being used for purposes many people never expected.
This post was edited on 7/17/19 at 6:59 pm
Posted by Globetrotter747
Member since Sep 2017
5890 posts
Posted on 7/17/19 at 6:59 pm to
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It's called a smartphone.


Once again, no one but a fricking retard is taking their smartphone with them when they go kill someone or rob a bank.
Posted by Oddibe
Close to some, further from others
Member since Sep 2015
6756 posts
Posted on 7/17/19 at 7:02 pm to
quote:

Would you be in favor of people having a type of chip implanted into them (let's say it cannot be tampered with or removed) that could be used to track anyone in the United States so that it can be determined who was at the scene when a significant crime (like murder or robbery) occurred?
My dog, pedos, violent criminals yes.....me...hell no.
Posted by SEClint
New Orleans, LA/Portland, OR
Member since Nov 2006
49487 posts
Posted on 7/17/19 at 7:03 pm to
Mark of the beast imo

We are not the government's cattle to be branded and marked.
Posted by Cs
Member since Aug 2008
10681 posts
Posted on 7/17/19 at 7:05 pm to
It's not just for those committing the crimes, but witnesses or any persons of interest as well. The point is, we're all being tracked 24/7. The only way to evade this is to turn your phone off or leave it at home, which almost no one will voluntarily do.

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The new orders, sometimes called “geofence” warrants, specify an area and a time period, and Google gathers information from Sensorvault about the devices that were there. It labels them with anonymous ID numbers, and detectives look at locations and movement patterns to see if any appear relevant to the crime. Once they narrow the field to a few devices they think belong to suspects or witnesses, Google reveals the users’ names and other information.
Posted by UncleRuckus
Member since Feb 2013
10255 posts
Posted on 7/17/19 at 7:05 pm to
frick no
Posted by Globetrotter747
Member since Sep 2017
5890 posts
Posted on 7/17/19 at 7:08 pm to
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My dog, pedos, violent criminals yes.....me...hell no.


It's funny.

Most of us have probably allowed a male doctor to touch and examine our anus or testicles for routine health reasons... but man, some anonymous person in a bunker far, far away maybe knowing you were at a restaurant Saturday night in order to help solve a murder, well, that's just too much. Can't do it.

That makes no fricking sense.
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
46682 posts
Posted on 7/17/19 at 7:10 pm to
quote:

If the TSA had body scans that showed you completely nude to some official in a bunker in another state but it would be part of a system that would make it virtually impossible for someone to take a gun, bomb, knife, box cutter, or some other weapon onto a plane, would you be okay with it?


No.

quote:

Would you allow someone you will never meet to see images of your naked body for assurance that there would never be another incident of terrorism involving planes?



No.

quote:

f someone you knew and liked were murdered, would you trade some anonymous person *maybe* knowing you stopped by for ice cream somewhere if it meant the killer would be identified and caught instead of getting away, never facing the consequences, and possibly murdering someone else?



No.

Do you have any other stupid fricking questions for me to answer no to you statist prick?
Posted by TigersHuskers
Nebraska
Member since Oct 2014
15523 posts
Posted on 7/17/19 at 7:10 pm to
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Typical alcoholic trash.


At least I dont look at people as guilty before proven innocent.
Posted by Globetrotter747
Member since Sep 2017
5890 posts
Posted on 7/17/19 at 7:12 pm to
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Do you have any other stupid fricking questions for me to answer no to you statist prick?


Just one. Do you wear a mask when you go out public? We can't have anyone know where we are now, can we?
This post was edited on 7/17/19 at 7:14 pm
Posted by TigersHuskers
Nebraska
Member since Oct 2014
15523 posts
Posted on 7/17/19 at 7:16 pm to
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What? Did they unrape the woman or child somehow or pay for her therapy? Did they pay back all that they stole from their victims? Did they resurrect those they murdered or manslaughtered? Did they pay restitution to the dead loved one's family? Did they pay the bills for the skull fractures they caused when they battered and bludgeoned the victim? No. They haven't paid shite. They simply spent some time in prison. That isn't paying their debt. They should be tracked if ever let out at all and their voting rights should not be restored.



Look at all these strawmen. A huge chunk of felons are nonviolent offenders

I bet you are a boomer too

WAR ON DRUGS RAH RAH!!!

SHARE if YOU remember.
Posted by Splackavellie
Bayou
Member since Oct 2017
13045 posts
Posted on 7/17/19 at 7:16 pm to
Convicted felon =/= guilty before proven innocent.


Drink another.
Posted by DLauw
SWLA
Member since Sep 2011
6195 posts
Posted on 7/17/19 at 7:24 pm to
I kind of like the fourth amendment so frick no
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
80821 posts
Posted on 7/17/19 at 7:30 pm to
quote:

A huge chunk of felons are nonviolent offenders
Clearly I didn't cover every felony. Most I mentioned were violent.
quote:

I bet you are a boomer too
Wrong, X.
quote:

WAR ON DRUGS RAH RAH!!!
You should definitely "say no."
Posted by IAmNERD
Member since May 2017
24496 posts
Posted on 7/17/19 at 7:30 pm to
Uhhhh, nah. I'll pass.
Posted by Globetrotter747
Member since Sep 2017
5890 posts
Posted on 7/17/19 at 7:32 pm to
Ya know, most of us have probably bought condoms at a convenience store, put cash between a stripper's tits, or been in a novelty shop. In all those situations, you faced a random, anonymous person (perhaps many) who saw you in a situation that might be considered embarrassing if publicly disclosed. And hell, there's always a chance you might bump into someone you actually know at such a place.

We're willing to confront strangers in situations like that just to see some tits, get our rocks off, or whatever the hell... but to aid law enforcement in apprehending murderers or deterring them in the first place?

Nah, it's too much.

I don't understand that. I really don't.
Posted by the paradigm
Moon Township, PA
Member since Sep 2017
5417 posts
Posted on 7/17/19 at 7:35 pm to
I had this idea years ago; I thought it would be a great way to locate a missing person. Most people disagreed.
Posted by TigerFanInSouthland
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2012
28065 posts
Posted on 7/17/19 at 7:43 pm to
quote:

If the TSA had body scans that showed you completely nude to some official in a bunker in another state but it would be part of a system that would make it virtually impossible for someone to take a gun, bomb, knife, box cutter, or some other weapon onto a plane, would you be okay with it? Would you allow someone you will never meet to see images of your naked body for assurance that there would never be another incident of terrorism involving planes? If someone you knew and liked were murdered, would you trade some anonymous person *maybe* knowing you stopped by for ice cream somewhere if it meant the killer would be identified and caught instead of getting away, never facing the consequences, and possibly murdering someone else?


Let me put it to you this way...

Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.

frick that, I’ll take my chances with the general population over the government any day of the week.
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