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re: Would you be in favor of a tracking chip?
Posted on 7/17/19 at 8:31 pm to Globetrotter747
Posted on 7/17/19 at 8:31 pm to Globetrotter747
To be free, there are a few tradeoffs we make. The potential for abuse for something like that is incredible.
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Posted on 7/17/19 at 8:36 pm to Globetrotter747
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The same people who x-ray your luggage and examine the personal items in it when you take it through an airport.
Which I can A) prepare for and B) choose to avoid by not flying.
You’re suggesting that everyone get tracked by uncle sam whether they want to or not. That isn’t even remotely the same thing.
Like others have said, you really aren’t understanding how pathologically authoritarian people get when they acquire absolute power. You really need to read up on 20th century history some.
This post was edited on 7/17/19 at 8:37 pm
Posted on 7/17/19 at 8:38 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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To be free, there are a few tradeoffs we make. The potential for abuse for something like that is incredible.
If you had a lot of things to hide and some demented government geek (or just some really good hacker) wanted to ruin your life they could do it already, but I don’t think any of us are losing sleep over that possibility.
Posted on 7/17/19 at 8:39 pm to Globetrotter747
Another great conservative idea from the idiots of TD
Posted on 7/17/19 at 8:41 pm to mikelbr
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I'd like to be able to turn it off to the public when I want to like I do my snapchat location when I'm doing hoodrat shite I don't want my gf to know about.
But the NSA don't bother me. They don't care about my vices.
Except that the OP’s stated purpose is for murder investigations, which means your data would be available to every move from the NSA, FBI and CIA all the way down to some podunck deputy in the middle of nowhere.
So you’d better hope you don’t piss off your neighbor who knows the clerk at the Sheriffs office. Your girls about to know about all of your hood rat ish.
Posted on 7/17/19 at 8:45 pm to StupidBinder
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Which I can A) prepare for and B) choose to avoid by not flying.
Or you could choose to avoid going to the strip club, your drug dealer’s house, your lover’s house, or wherever else you might be worried about some government geek finding out about - which could probably be done already.
Some of you are so paranoid you need to get off the Internet and go live in a shack in Montana.
Posted on 7/17/19 at 8:45 pm to Globetrotter747
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If you had a lot of things to hide and some demented government geek (or just some really good hacker) wanted to ruin your life they could do it already, but I don’t think any of us are losing sleep over that possibility.
Yeah, so let’s make it infinitely easier and blur the lines of legality for said geek by pooling everyone’s location data into one gigantic database.
And just to put a cherry on top, will give every single law enforcement agency a front end to it so now, literally millions of people can actually do this.
Brilliant.
Posted on 7/17/19 at 8:50 pm to StupidBinder
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So you’d better hope you don’t piss off your neighbor who knows the clerk at the Sheriffs office. Your girls about to know about all of your hood rat
Didn't Murphy Painter just get in trouble for shite like that? I know he wasn't found guilty but the charges damaged his rep.
I'm okay with this for murder investigations. I'm in favor of minority report stuff.
Posted on 7/17/19 at 8:53 pm to StupidBinder
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And just to put a cherry on top, will give every single law enforcement agency a front end to it so now, literally millions of people can actually do this.
It wouldn't be available to every Barney Fife out there.
Posted on 7/17/19 at 8:53 pm to Globetrotter747
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Or you could choose to avoid going to the strip club, your drug dealer’s house, your lover’s house, or wherever else you might be worried about some government geek finding out about - which could probably be done already.
Some of you are so paranoid you need to get off the Internet and go live in a shack in Montana.
Tell you what chief, put your money where your mouth is. Post your location data in this thread for a month straight along with your name and SSN.
Do that and I’ll admit I’m just being paranoid.
Posted on 7/17/19 at 8:56 pm to Globetrotter747
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It wouldn't be available to every Barney Fife out there.
How wouldn’t it? You’d have to give this to every agency that would potentially be investigating a homicide. And time is of the essence in investigations like this, so what are you going to do? How are you going to restrict access to that info within every single agency in the country?
Posted on 7/17/19 at 9:00 pm to Globetrotter747
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The same people who x-ray your luggage and examine the personal items in it when you take it through an airport.
Rather long way for someone to say the government. If you truly trust law enforcement and government (two of the least trustworthy human entities ever created) then you’re either a socialist or a complete naive child. Which both of those things tend to go hand in hand.
Furthermore, do you really believe that the same type of people working for the TSA should be in charge of or handling these types of things? Government, if anything, has shown us that it is incapable of not overstepping the arbitrary boundaries that it gives itself. Say hello to the NSA, FBI, CIA, DEA, ATF, and every other law enforcement entity out there. Other than stealing our liberties and our money, that is.
The greatest killings and mass imprisonments in human history were propagated by government entities of one form or another. And doing something like this would most assuredly end up with even more tramplings on our liberties granted in the United States Constitution by the entity that is there to protect our liberties.
Government has been, is now, and will always be the enemy of liberty loving individuals everywhere. This nation began on a promise of limited government allowed by a moral people. We have neither now.
This post was edited on 7/17/19 at 9:39 pm
Posted on 7/17/19 at 9:01 pm to Globetrotter747
They already have this and it’s called your cell phone.
The amount of data collected from a cell phone is insane.
The amount of data collected from a cell phone is insane.
Posted on 7/17/19 at 9:02 pm to Globetrotter747
I think China will have this in the next 25 years to compliment their new Social Credit System.
But to answer your question hell no.
But to answer your question hell no.
This post was edited on 7/17/19 at 9:03 pm
Posted on 7/17/19 at 9:03 pm to Jake88
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What? Did they unrape the woman or child somehow or pay for her therapy? Did they pay back all that they stole from their victims? Did they resurrect those they murdered or manslaughtered? Did they pay restitution to the dead loved one's family? Did they pay the bills for the skull fractures they caused when they battered and bludgeoned the victim? No. They haven't paid shite. They simply spent some time in prison. That isn't paying their debt. They should be tracked if ever let out at all and their voting rights should not be restored.
Ridiculous.
Posted on 7/17/19 at 9:07 pm to Globetrotter747
The establishment will try to sell you on all the supposed “good” it will do for tracking criminals, eliminating kidnappings and locating people who have disappeared.
DON’T BELIEVE A frickING WORD OF IT!
A microchip implant is the mark of the beast, pure and simple, as foretold in the Book of Revelation. If you accept the mark of the beast you have sold your soul and eternal damnation awaits your naive arse.
DON’T BELIEVE A frickING WORD OF IT!
A microchip implant is the mark of the beast, pure and simple, as foretold in the Book of Revelation. If you accept the mark of the beast you have sold your soul and eternal damnation awaits your naive arse.
This post was edited on 7/17/19 at 9:09 pm
Posted on 7/17/19 at 9:36 pm to brass2mouth
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They already have this and it’s called your cell phone.
People keep saying this....
I can chuck my iPhone into the river right now and Apple, Google or FedGov wouldn't know jack about my whereabouts.
Hell, you don’t even have to do that. Just throw it in airplane mode. Boom. You’re a ghost.
The frick you gonna do about a damn chip implanted in your arm?
Posted on 7/17/19 at 10:03 pm to Globetrotter747
Are you that complexly devoid of any American liberty whatsoever to even consider giving that power to rest In the hands of your government to track your and everyone’s movements throughout the day?
WTF is wrong with you?
Have we as a society failed you that horrifically at educating you on the dangers of such authoritarian control via government in your life, or is it just historical education deprivation that would cause you to even consider such a concept?
The fact that you have 5 other idiots who upvoted you is even more disconcerting. Hopefully, those are preschoolers who got a hold of mommy and daddy’s computer.
WTF is wrong with you?
Have we as a society failed you that horrifically at educating you on the dangers of such authoritarian control via government in your life, or is it just historical education deprivation that would cause you to even consider such a concept?
The fact that you have 5 other idiots who upvoted you is even more disconcerting. Hopefully, those are preschoolers who got a hold of mommy and daddy’s computer.
This post was edited on 7/17/19 at 10:06 pm
Posted on 7/17/19 at 11:11 pm to StupidBinder
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People keep saying this.... I can chuck my iPhone into the river right now and Apple, Google or FedGov wouldn't know jack about my whereabouts. Hell, you don’t even have to do that. Just throw it in airplane mode. Boom. You’re a ghost. The frick you gonna do about a damn chip implanted in your arm?
Except google/Apple keep records of all that which is easily obtained with a warrant.
Connect to a router at home? They can pull your cell phone info from that
That Bluetooth in your car? Yeah same thing.
Remember when you tried connecting your neighbor’s WiFi but didn’t have the password? Guess what your cell phone information is there too.
At that point it’s just sending a warrant to Google/Apple with the specific phones information and they release the plethora of information to police, which is already a practice put in to use for serious crimes. Also FYI an Android phone communicates with Google every two seconds. Apple is a little better about that but it’s still communicating frequently.
I’m not advocating for a chip or anything, simply saying you are already being tracked to the extent and then some that OP posted about.
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