re: Would the South have voluntarily end Slavery

I'm actually 1/32 Native American

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The largest myth about the Civil War is that it was fought to end slavery.

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Why was it fought, then?

You do know that literally every Southern state declared in its declaration of secession that the main reason for doing it is so they could continue slavery, right?

That's a fact, not an opinion. You can look it up.

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Would it have ever ended if the South won.

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Yes, once they realized it was cheaper to hire illegal Mexicans than to buy slaves

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Every other nation on earth ended slavery without having a war that killed over half a million people. This includes nations like Brazil, where slavery was as entrenched as it was in the South. Brazil ended slavery only two decades after the Civil War.

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Haiti was close with over 300,000 killed at least.


Brazil was by Royal decree by a Queen & would have continued without it.



So what the Neo Confederates are saying is ..." just take a few more generations of the most brutal exploitation & we will probably end it someday"....?




MLK always spoke of the " fierce urgency of NOW".

" The time is always right to do what's right"-MLK


The end of slavery was decades overdue.

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Sorry, but the civil War was fought over states rights. Lincoln made it about slavery.

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The civil war was fought because of succession, succession was because of slavery.

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I have a degree in Social studies education.

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sad

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On another note I feel that the war could have been avoided if there would have been a Compensated emancipation. This was done in other countries when they were ending slavery. Though it was wrong, slavery was part of the era, and slave owners had a lot of money invested in the slaves they owned. I think that could have been a better use of government's money than trying to set up a colony in Africa(Liberia) to send the freed slaves.

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That's a pretty racist sentiment. You favor giving money to the white people instead of letting the victims go free? Africa would be a major industrialized world power if we had not taken their best and brightest and scattered them to the wind!

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No, what he's trying to say is that had the federal government said they were abolishing slavery while compensating the former slave owners, it may have helped avoid the Civil War. Think about it...most of the wealthy and powerful people in the Confederate states were slave owners. And they were pissed off that the northerners were trying to free all their slaves, which would've resulted in huge financial losses for those slave owners who had invested big money in buying slaves. By offering compensation for the freed slaves, it would soften the financial blow to the former slave owners, which gives them less reason to take up arms and go to war with the north.

I see what he was trying to say, but don't think it would've worked because the Emancipation Proclamation didn't happen until nearly 2 years into the Civil War...and was likely more of a strategic move by Lincoln to attempt to disrupt the southern slave-based economy than a humanitarian move.

NYCAuburn

I guess my professor who taught at West Point for 13 years and wrote most of the books used nation wide as reading material for american military history and the American civil war is wrong.

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I guess my professor who taught at West Point for 13 years and wrote most of the books used nation wide as reading material for american military history and the American civil war is wrong.

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Well considering the State right they were particularly fighting for was slavery, your statement was wrong.

The tractors and mechanical harvesters are largely forgotten for their role in the great diaspora of African Americans from the Mississippi delta because of The 1927 Flood. While that flood was at least partially responsible for the massive wave of Delta Blacks moving to industrial cities in the north, it was really the last straw. The advent of the fossil fuel-powered tractor and mechanical harvesters had rendered large scale agricultural largely obsolete.
Those technologies had finally begun supplanting black laborers in the 1920s. The Great Flood was what convinced many to leave because their livelihoods were already gone.

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. I just decided to condense it into one thread on the actual holiday.

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I prefer it in multiple parts. E.g., Part I: Plagiarism. Part II: Unearned Doctorate. Part III: Spousal Abuse. Part IV: Whore Mongering Pastor.

Sort of like you'd do with Jimmy Sawaggart, who was rightfully disgraced instead of honored with a national holiday.