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re: World War 2 still boggles my mind

Posted on 11/21/21 at 3:55 pm to
Posted by mikelbr
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 11/21/21 at 3:55 pm to
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After each dive run, he looked around at the 100's of bodies and did not see one that was a whole body, they were all chewed up into pieces


What kind/caliber guns did fighter planes have in WW2?
Posted by TigerstuckinMS
Member since Nov 2005
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Posted on 11/21/21 at 3:56 pm to
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Posted by CuyahogaTigerJr ? ? on 11/21/21 at 3:20 pm to CuyahogaTigerJr

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Good we agree

Forgot to log out of your alter?
Posted by stampman
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
5104 posts
Posted on 11/21/21 at 4:00 pm to
I've always been a student of WWII and have a number of books and video's about it. I just finished for the second time: "With the old Breed", by E.B.Sledge who fought in the Pacific. He kept a daily diary of everything he went through and the series "The Pacific" was mostly based on this..Many historians say "sledgehammer" as they called him presents the most factual happenings of many of the battles he was in. If you are faint of heart however, don't read it because he goes into vivid details of the brutality of the Japanese and the gruesome things he witnessed.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91273 posts
Posted on 11/21/21 at 4:01 pm to
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I honestly believe we will soon see the same hardships and losses our grandparents saw in WW2. The world is a tinderbox just waiting for a spark.



I think people underestimate how important global economics are in all of this.

It could happen, sure, but the interdependency between the major global powers makes it a very unattractive proposition.


That, and nukes.
Posted by supadave3
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2005
31739 posts
Posted on 11/21/21 at 4:26 pm to
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"With the old Breed", by E.B.Sledge who fought in the Pacific. He kept a daily diary of everything he went through and the series "The Pacific" was mostly based on this.



Just ordered from Thriftbooks $6. Thanks for the rec.
Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
37668 posts
Posted on 11/21/21 at 4:30 pm to
shite, son, WWI had Calvary lancers, airplanes, rail artillery, tanks, machine guns, infiltration tactics, siege blimps, Uboats, flamethrowers, star forts, mass infantry charges, etc.

WWI > WWII

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What’s crazy to me is how certain worldwide events of today, are a result of WWII.


Which is a result of WWI
This post was edited on 11/21/21 at 4:31 pm
Posted by White Roach
Member since Apr 2009
9666 posts
Posted on 11/21/21 at 4:37 pm to
Most American fighters had .50 caliber machine guns, but some had 6' and I think some even had 8. The P-38 had a nose mounted cannon and 4 .50s. It would frick you up.
Some German, British and Japanese fighters also had 20mm cannons and a couple of machine guns.
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
41193 posts
Posted on 11/21/21 at 4:45 pm to
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I just don’t understand why the Japanese attacked Pearl Harbor, and dragged us into the war. Whenever they were invading China, they made sure to not fire or attack any territories in China, that were owned by GB, France, or the US. They didn’t want to attack them and start a war with the west. Then they end up attacking Pearl Harbor and dragging us into the war, which ends up leading to their defeat.


They dramatically underestimated our ability and fortitude to wage war. Also, we put such crippling economic sanctions on them we basically left them no choice.
Posted by TheFonz
Somewhere in Louisiana
Member since Jul 2016
22710 posts
Posted on 11/21/21 at 4:48 pm to
I was fortunate enough to know my grandfather and five great-uncles who fought in the war. All in different theaters in different branches. I knew family friends who served. I knew Australians who fought in North Africa, New Guinea, and Borneo. I knew a lady who lived in Lyon, France during the occupation. Every one of them are gone now but I thank my lucky stars to have known them, and that they shared their stories with me.
This post was edited on 11/21/21 at 4:49 pm
Posted by sonoma8
Member since Oct 2006
8070 posts
Posted on 11/21/21 at 4:57 pm to
Do you remember the name of this documentary?
Posted by Keltic Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2006
21461 posts
Posted on 11/21/21 at 5:22 pm to
It's named "D Day Through German Eyes..The Hidden Story of June 6, 1944". It's quite lengthy.
Posted by Cracker
in a box
Member since Nov 2009
19077 posts
Posted on 11/21/21 at 5:31 pm to
No goretex Maybe some wool there is a reason it’s the greatest generation ever.
Posted by EastBankTiger
A little west of Hoover Dam
Member since Dec 2003
21608 posts
Posted on 11/21/21 at 5:34 pm to
If you haven't already seen this, it's a fascinating channel to study WWII. WWII in real time Youtube
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
104180 posts
Posted on 11/21/21 at 5:36 pm to
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I started studying WW2 around 1980 and just realized more time has passed from that year to now then the actual war itself when I started. It seemed like ancient history back then! I'm boggled.


Most WWII vets weren't even senior citizens then. There were even lots of WWI vets around.
Posted by Cajun Tifoso
Lafayette, LA
Member since Sep 2010
2718 posts
Posted on 11/21/21 at 6:20 pm to
I still read books about WWII. I put one book down and grab another.
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
104180 posts
Posted on 11/21/21 at 6:23 pm to
here's a butterfly effect hypothetical:

IRL when Germany invaded the Netherlands, the Dutch government escaped to London and set up a government in exile. The Germans installed a puppet government but the Dutch colonies ignored it and heeded the legitimate government. If the Germans had been able to capture the Dutch government intact they could have had a puppet regime the colonies would listen to. They could have ordered oil sales to Japan and there's little the US could have done short of invading the oil fields ourselves, which we weren't prepared to do at the time.

Japan gets its oil, a free hand in China, and avoids a direct confrontation with the United States for the time being. So, no Pacific War for the time being. And with no Pearl Harbor, Hitler doesn't have a brain fart and declare ware on the US. FDR doesn't have an excuse to offer large scale aid to Russia unless there's some other provocation, which might have happened-we were in a quasi-war with German Uboats in the Atlantic at the time so something could have kicked off over that. At any rate, the war could have gone very different based on one relatively small change of events.
Posted by TigerintheNO
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2004
44023 posts
Posted on 11/21/21 at 6:54 pm to
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Which is a result of WWI


What really boggles my mind- 22 million people died because Serb peasant assassinated this couple


Posted by genuineLSUtiger
Nashville
Member since Sep 2005
76918 posts
Posted on 11/21/21 at 6:55 pm to
Illuminati affiliated Serb peasant that is.
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
104180 posts
Posted on 11/21/21 at 7:05 pm to
Southeast Europe was a powder keg. The Austro Hungarian and Ottoman empires were on the verge of disintegrating. Germany wanted to be the big swinging dick and England said Nah. France was itching for revenge over the 1870 Franco Prussian War. And Russia was Russia. The balloon was going up in Europe, the only question was how would it start. Serbia it was.
Posted by bayoudude
Member since Dec 2007
25835 posts
Posted on 11/21/21 at 7:17 pm to
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Wait til we see what WW3 looks like….


If there is ever a fourth it will be fought with sticks and stones
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