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re: World War 2 still boggles my mind

Posted on 11/21/21 at 2:44 pm to
Posted by Strannix
District 11
Member since Dec 2012
48907 posts
Posted on 11/21/21 at 2:44 pm to
Ill never understand why we supported international Bolshevism on both sides of the globe, 100+ million souls condemned to death with billions still enslaved in China
Posted by CuyahogaTigerJr
Northeast ohio
Member since Aug 2018
2184 posts
Posted on 11/21/21 at 2:44 pm to
I’ve been fascinated with it when I read the book night by Elie Wiesel in the 7th grade, and still it’s hard to comprehend all that really happened back then.
Posted by supadave3
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2005
30250 posts
Posted on 11/21/21 at 2:58 pm to
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Life magazine actually put a picture of dead Americans on its cover for the first time to help reignite support.

LINK



That link will definitely send me down a rabbit hole. Thanks for that.
Posted by Yewkindewit
Near Birmingham, Alabama
Member since Apr 2012
20029 posts
Posted on 11/21/21 at 3:04 pm to
Google map of WWII shipwrecks. Check some of those out!
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
98181 posts
Posted on 11/21/21 at 3:07 pm to
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I just don’t understand why the Japanese attacked Pearl Harbor, 


We were strangling their economy with an oil embargo in response to their aggression in China. They needed to take the Dutch East Indies oil fields and to do that they had to put our navy out of action. That's the short answer. The long answer is they believed themselves entitled to a Pacific empire so we were eventually going to butt heads. The current rhetoric coming out of China is eerily similar to what Japan was saying in the 1930s
Posted by sledgehammer
SWLA
Member since Oct 2020
3359 posts
Posted on 11/21/21 at 3:09 pm to
“I know not with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones.”
-Albert Einstein
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
108256 posts
Posted on 11/21/21 at 3:14 pm to
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I've been lately consuming a lot of literature and media about WW2. The technological innovations, battle strategies, and the incalculable carange inflicted on so many people is so hard to completely comprehend. It's something so massive of an event that our economy and history we are through living now is all catagorized as "Post-War".

I'm not new to this subject either. I just think we, as a society, take for granted that such a big historical milestone took place in living memory and we have interacted with people who witnessed this. I dunno just thinking about the scale of WW2 sometimes just makes me sitdown and say, "Holy shite this stuff actually happened. It's all real." Few corners of the world were left untouched by the war.


To be honest I look at WWI and WWII as one massive war with a calm period in the middle but not much of one when you put Japan and the Second Sino Japanese War into the equation. It was a war between countries, classes, and races all over the board. It was an incredible point in human history and the biggest event in human history since the Black Plague.
Posted by CuyahogaTigerJr
Northeast ohio
Member since Aug 2018
2184 posts
Posted on 11/21/21 at 3:15 pm to
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Chinese tariff

Yes this in my opinion is what started it
Posted by mjthe
Virginia
Member since Oct 2020
6870 posts
Posted on 11/21/21 at 3:16 pm to
World War 3 has been going on without much resistance from the US
Posted by CuyahogaTigerJr
Northeast ohio
Member since Aug 2018
2184 posts
Posted on 11/21/21 at 3:20 pm to
Good we agree
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
108256 posts
Posted on 11/21/21 at 3:20 pm to
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And still had time and energy to become the most prolific biological father in history.


I mean, 90% of them were not by the woman’s choice. That tends to come with the conquering. Like in Poland it’s estimated that over 50% of the women were raped during WWII, most brutally by the Soviets. The people in Germany were shitting their fricking pants hearing of the accounts and rightly praised God when the Allies beat the Red Army to their towns. Anyone who wasn’t a member of the High Command, the SS, and the Gestapo were thrilled to be conquered by the allies and put an end to this insane bullshite.
This post was edited on 11/21/21 at 3:25 pm
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
36311 posts
Posted on 11/21/21 at 3:22 pm to
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I think about this with how we built the interstate system. And now how it’s impossible to build even one mile of new interstate.



We've decreased our state capacity to the degree that we are barely a country. Though people dislike the New Deal, reading about it shows that often people just did things in a way we don't anymore.
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
119120 posts
Posted on 11/21/21 at 3:29 pm to
Wait for the soon Civil war here if the left finds millions of votes for candidates in November 2022.
Posted by cattus
Member since Jan 2009
13432 posts
Posted on 11/21/21 at 3:30 pm to
I started studying WW2 around 1980 and just realized more time has passed from that year to now then the actual war itself when I started. It seemed like ancient history back then! I'm boggled.

World War II still fascinates me.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
108256 posts
Posted on 11/21/21 at 3:34 pm to
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It has started. China is the new Germany. Timeline of events include a Chinese tariff, rigged US election, Covid-19 pandemic, riots, and Russia


The resemblance to early 1930s Germany is frightening to say the least.
Posted by BlackPawnMartyr
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2010
15302 posts
Posted on 11/21/21 at 3:35 pm to
This plus a bit more to do the way they were disrespected by the major Allies after WW1. The amazing YouTube channel Kings and Generals is doing a podcast on this very subject now called "The Pacific War week by week".
Posted by 14&Counting
Eugene, OR
Member since Jul 2012
37618 posts
Posted on 11/21/21 at 3:38 pm to
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What’s crazy to me is how certain worldwide events of today, are a result of WWII. China wanting to invade Taiwan, the whole Israeli/Palestinian conflict. It all goes back to this war.


Actually a lot of those conflicts are rooted in decisions made after World War I
Posted by tickfawtiger
Killian LA
Member since Sep 2005
10980 posts
Posted on 11/21/21 at 3:43 pm to
As a 'side-note'...many military/social scholars credit the end of WW1/treaty of versailles, with the origin of WW2...at least in the European theatre.
Posted by mikelbr
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2008
47486 posts
Posted on 11/21/21 at 3:44 pm to
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I know this post has the same stoner level of insight of, "Whoa! Do you ever think, like, about how airplanes work man?". Am I crazy or just overthinking this idea?



Nope. I find myself thinking the same thing. This past Summer on our road trip through the frontier, a random WW2 memorial in a small town in Wyoming had me thinking the same way. It boggles my brain how a country our physical size could round up so many young men, send them to locations all over the US, train them to effectively use weapons, operate equipment, fly planes, drive tanks, etc. THEN send them thousands of miles across the globe to dive headfirst into a clusterfrick of carnage.
And to be victorious in battle in 3 completely different theaters at the same time? That's beyond impressive and boggling.

This post was edited on 11/21/21 at 3:46 pm
Posted by Keltic Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2006
19288 posts
Posted on 11/21/21 at 3:48 pm to
There is a documentary on YouTube, no pictures, just stories by German soldiers who were at D Day, giving their version. ( The Germans Version of D Day). Several comments were interesting, different stories, same subject: the Germans had never seen tanks capable of operating in the water. The 2 soldiers were in bunkers on Omaha Beach & freaked out when tanks came out of the landing crafts through the waves. One said his captain had to threaten to shoot those in the bunker who were terrified & freezing up. Another said his initial view out the bunker showed the landing crafts seemingly side by side by side, stretching forever. They were not prepared for that type of invasion. Another told graphic stories about American planes strafing Germans behind the lines. After each dive run, he looked around at the 100's of bodies and did not see one that was a whole body, they were all chewed up into pieces. Another described a graphic scene where 10-15 soldiers were huddled behind a half track, trying to get shelter from the planes. When a plane came at the half track head on, guns blazing, its driver panicked & backed up over all the soldiers. He said he couldn't see one "body" afterwards, they were all flattened to pieces.
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