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re: Woman in Minnesota tried ramming ICE Officer gets unalived. NSFW

Posted on 1/16/26 at 1:44 pm to
Posted by RanchoLaPuerto
Jena
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Posted on 1/16/26 at 1:44 pm to
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Downplaying or minimizing what he said, especially in the context of real violence erupting on the streets because of clashes between protesters and agents after the Minneapolis ICE incidents: is either dishonest or intentional obfuscation.


I really wasn’t addressing that at all.

I thought people were jumping his arse because he posted places that ICE was operating.
Posted by dallastigers
Member since Dec 2003
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Posted on 1/16/26 at 1:48 pm to
Walz supported feds enforcing immigration laws in Minnesota back in 2018 as part of his reasoning for becoming a sanctuary state as it’s the fed’s job to enforce immigration laws.
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Posted by cubsfan5150
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Posted on 1/16/26 at 2:49 pm to
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Let’s get one thing straight: I never said or implied this should be a crime.



Then why did you reply to me??????
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 1/16/26 at 3:39 pm to
because of this thing called post history

you ain’t fooling anyone
Posted by dallastigers
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Posted on 1/16/26 at 8:33 pm to
In that area if she had just let herself get arrested for obstruction she would have likely been acquitted due to multiple leftists on the jury whether they acknowledge their bias or not beforehand (they will not get challenged on what they say by DA or by attorney of any protester/obstructionist). If ICE left it up to local prosecutor charges would have likely been dropped.

Seattle acquitted this guy. He is an illegal who the left protects more than citizens, and they likely think they are saving him and others from deportation by not convicting for a felony. I think that only matters for legal aliens. In Seattle they also are likely to not ever convict anyone for a crime against ICE.
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Some additional info on the left’s hero, role model, and neighbor from just after his arrest.
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Victor Vivanco-Reyes, 25, appeared in US District Court in Seattle and is charged with two counts of assault on a federal officer. He remains in federal custody pending a detention hearing scheduled for June 13, 2025.

According to the criminal complaint, Homeland Security Investigations (HSI), working with Enforcement and Removal Operations (ERO), US Border Patrol, and Customs and Border Protection’s Air and Marine Operations (CBP AMO), had been seeking Vivanco-Reyes due to his undocumented status and prior criminal convictions which include a drive by shooting while having a weapon at a school facility. While serving time in Washington, he engaged in a prison riot.
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Posted by dallastigers
Member since Dec 2003
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Posted on 1/16/26 at 9:20 pm to
Now a Dem from Florida -Rep. Maxwell Frost (D-FL) - is handing out the locations of ICE officers in Florida. He was also giving out the hotel locations of the ICE officers. It also seems wrong that a US representative is helping to obstruct US laws and put federal officers at risk. I would be that he is going to get a different reaction from the Governor than the state rep doing this in Minnesota. Included below are comments from the Lt. Governor of Florida.
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Posted by Klark Kent
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Posted on 1/16/26 at 10:01 pm to
i guess these Democrat lawmakers wouldn’t mind their home address being doxxed either then huh?
Posted by Klark Kent
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Posted on 1/17/26 at 3:02 pm to
Posted by dallastigers
Member since Dec 2003
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Posted on 1/18/26 at 12:16 am to
They assembled and tried to go after some tech engineers who the idiots thought were ICE. The idiot judge has made them think to a greater extent that they can act without consequences, but if it had been ICE and then they idiotic went after them the officers can and are going to defend themselves.
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Posted by LSUGrad9295
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Posted on 1/18/26 at 12:36 am to
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were soon confronted by protesters who surrounded the restaurant, shouting insults and blowing whistles


Someone needs to shove those whistles up the protesters asses.

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“One of us is pro-ICE, one anti-ICE, others on the fence,” he said. “After this, I think some of them are rethinking everything.”


Good. Come on over to the rational side. There is plenty room for you.

Posted by prplhze2000
Parts Unknown
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Posted on 1/20/26 at 9:00 pm to
This needs a bump.
Posted by HailToTheChiz
Back in Auburn
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Posted on 1/20/26 at 9:04 pm to
How is that not illegal?

Posted by dallastigers
Member since Dec 2003
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Posted on 1/20/26 at 9:13 pm to
These obstructionists think very highly of themselves…
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Posted on 1/20/26 at 9:14 pm to
Posted by Weekend Warrior79
Member since Aug 2014
21746 posts
Posted on 1/20/26 at 9:18 pm to
Does this mean the anti-ICE crowd is making assumptions about whether or not a person works for DHS simply based on appearances? And, when they do make those assumptions based on appearances, there are times that mistakes are made and some people get misidentified?
Posted by SallysHuman
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Posted on 1/20/26 at 9:23 pm to
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And, when they do make those assumptions based on appearances, there are times that mistakes are made and some people get misidentified?


Making assumptions is different than acting on them.

While there are no laws, codes, regulations, etc... on being gainfully employed by the federal government- there are on being illegally present in the USA.

Posted by dallastigers
Member since Dec 2003
10610 posts
Posted on 1/20/26 at 9:30 pm to
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Does this mean the anti-ICE crowd is making assumptions about whether or not a person works for DHS simply based on appearances? And, when they do make those assumptions based on appearances, there are times that mistakes are made and some people get misidentified?


They went after one guy (not ICE) just because he rented a vehicle that had Texas plates. They also have a database of license plates of known ICE vehicles, but they don’t seem to realize or care that ICE is using rentals and non-ICE regular citizens can use the same vehicle afterwards.
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Posted by dallastigers
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Posted on 1/20/26 at 9:34 pm to
They also didn’t like the Hispanic who became a cop
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Posted by molsusports
Member since Jul 2004
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Posted on 1/20/26 at 9:51 pm to
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And I’m very clearly on the opposite side of that.


Sure. At most levels, though, that is not criminal. It’s actually probably protected speech.

Doxxing is a whole new field, and it’s amorphous.

I don’t think it is wrongful to identify an ICE officer by name. It is absolutely wrongful to combine that with any suggestion that someone harm or harass the officer. It is a question of degree.



I see a lot of this type of argument and superficially it seems logical. Logical if we were living in a reality where crowds of people weren't berating and threatening people in restaurants on the suspicion of being ICE agents. We've had people ramming cars into ICE agents and vehicles (this thread and the recent example in Seattle). We've also had people shooting blindly into ICE vehicles (accidentally hitting illegal immigrants).

When you know people will use the doxxing information to harass or harm the officer.or their family it escalates the action from speech to the encouragement or facilitation of violence.

This much is obvious to most people on the left if you changed the enforcement purpose to Birmingham or Little Rock civil rights protests in the 1960s. The threats of violence in this case are also imminent and ongoing. The doxxing is no longer reasonable to protect in that circumstance because it puts the life of the agents and their families at immediate and unreasonable risk.
This post was edited on 1/20/26 at 9:53 pm
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