re: Wisconsin Hospital Replaces All Anesthesiologists with CRNAs

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I would never trust my health or wellbeing to a DO.

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Well, that's just stupid. There are several DO schools with higher MCAT and GPA averages than MD schools.

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US Nurse Anesthesiologist.

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What state is this term accepted?

I have never heard any CRNA introduce themselves as this...

This was a nice read after a quick google search. From an LSU Law publication.

The Problems of Certified Registered Nurse Anesthetists

More than any other specialty, anesthesiology in the United States has blurred the distinction between physicians and nurse-practitioners. This confusion of roles has its roots in the late differentiation of anesthesiology as a specialty. There was a considerable period during which anesthesia delivery consisted of a paper cone and a container of ether, both held by a nurse. This created a perception that anesthesia was a nursing task. With the certification of registered nurse anesthetists (CRNAs), surgeons explicitly accepted that anesthesia could be practiced by a nurse, albeit under the supervision of a surgeon. This pattern of allowing nurses to practice a medical specialty did not pose a problem until anesthesia practice began to become much more sophisticated and technologically oriented.
Board certification in anesthesia now requires a medical degree, training in a formal residency, and passing a certification examination. This creates an enormous gulf between the knowledge base of CRNAs and physician anesthesiologists. It also creates a knowledge gap between board-certified anesthesiologists and physicians who practice anesthesia without formal training. Such physicians include family practitioners who provide anesthesia in rural hospitals, noncertified physicians who hold themselves out as anesthesiologists, and most surgeons who supervise CRNAs.
A major controversy between surgeons and anesthesiologists is the proper role of CRNAs. Few, if any, states allow the independent practice of anesthesia by nurses. The legal expectation is that the CRNA will be supervised by a properly qualified anesthesiologist. If the CRNA is not under the supervision of an anesthesiologist or if this supervision is too attenuated, the law will assign the surgeon legal responsibility for the CRNAs' actions. (See Chapter 15.)
Medical malpractice insurance rates for CRNAs are artificially low because the nurses do not bear primary responsibility for any negligent actions. When a CRNA injures a patient, the legal liability for that injury flows directly to the supervising physician--either the surgeon or the anesthesiologist. In some cases, the nurse is not even sued. In cases where the CRNA is not supervised by an anesthesiologist, the plaintiff's attorney focuses on the surgeon rather than the CRNA. The surgeon is a much less sympathetic target in front of a jury. As the licensed physician in charge, the surgeon is expected to know all aspects of anesthesiology practice. Plaintiffs' attorneys are able to make supervising surgeons appear negligent by forcing them to admit that they relied on the nurse's knowledge of anesthesia. This is ethically questionable and violates the medical practice act in most states because it is impossible to supervise care that one does not understand.

Doing ortho cases at that facility? How about Podiatry cases?

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AMS

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I know exactly who you are. Not really. But you fit the bill.

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Yeah I guess I am just naive but I do not see this NP Independent care as the case where I live. Maybe in a different state or something it is. But we as patients can choose who we would like to see so I don't see this as some major problem.

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Where you really see this in states with lower population and poor access to medical care. It's hard to recruit a MD to BFE and lower pay, a lot easier for a N P.

Some physicians get thier panties in a wad over this, but the NP is providing access to care to an area in need that they themselves want no part of working.

That is my understanding as well to some of these cases.

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How does that work with people who wanna do general primary care, family doctor type stuff. Instead of doing residency at a hospital they work at different doctor offices or just bounce around different specialist areas of a hospital to learn as much as possible?

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They would do a family medicine or internal medicine residency. A lot of clinic hours. Typically hospital based although they may do some rotations at satellite clinics. See the Duke family medicine residency curriculum below:

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My med mal carrier and my state board of medicine says it is absolutely correct where I practice...but carry

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I would double check that, boss, before you need it. I’m serious.

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Few, if any, states allow the independent practice of anesthesia by nurses. The legal expectation is that the CRNA will be supervised by a properly qualified anesthesiologist. If the CRNA is not under the supervision of an anesthesiologist or if this supervision is too attenuated, the law will assign the surgeon legal responsibility for the CRNAs' actions. (See Chapter 15.) Medical malpractice insurance rates for CRNAs are artificially low because the nurses do not bear primary responsibility for any negligent actions. When a CRNA injures a patient, the legal liability for that injury flows directly to the supervising physician--either the surgeon or the anesthesiologist. In some cases, the nurse is not even sued. In cases where the CRNA is not supervised by an anesthesiologist, the plaintiff's attorney focuses on the surgeon rather than the CRNA.

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Yeah idk you seem to be fear mongering. Like I have a heart attack and then will be sent to NP Tonya for diagnosis cause there are no more cardiologists? Is your practicing state independent?

I mean I sure hope that's not that case and NPs don't want that either