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re: Why would anyone build a new house?
Posted on 4/27/22 at 9:29 am to jlovel7
Posted on 4/27/22 at 9:29 am to jlovel7
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Very little new construction looks as good as a home built 60+ years ago that’s been well maintained.
You are right on the money with this. I guess all the downvotes are because people don't like the truth.
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Posted on 4/27/22 at 9:34 am to Geekboy
It’s actually very easy, much easier if you ask me to build. But I’ve designed both houses I’ve built as well as houses for friends and neighbors so it’s not that hard for me to draw up what I want.
Important things are get a good builder with a good reputation, and monitor it daily. Red tag everything you don’t like.
My first house I used a builder my next door neighbor, who I went to church with recommended the person who built theirs and raved about how wonderful he was. So I went with them, turns out they just wanted him close so they could get things repaired he refused to fix when he built theirs.
They thought it was funny, and didn’t I think that was funny. I told the wife if it had been her husband who told me that he’d be on the ground bleeding, and to never speak to a member of my family or step foot on my property again. Told the builder he really didn’t want to make the same mistake with me. He didn’t.
2nd one I took references and went to see some of their work. Selected one who did good work and had overall good reviews.
Important things are get a good builder with a good reputation, and monitor it daily. Red tag everything you don’t like.
My first house I used a builder my next door neighbor, who I went to church with recommended the person who built theirs and raved about how wonderful he was. So I went with them, turns out they just wanted him close so they could get things repaired he refused to fix when he built theirs.
They thought it was funny, and didn’t I think that was funny. I told the wife if it had been her husband who told me that he’d be on the ground bleeding, and to never speak to a member of my family or step foot on my property again. Told the builder he really didn’t want to make the same mistake with me. He didn’t.
2nd one I took references and went to see some of their work. Selected one who did good work and had overall good reviews.
Posted on 4/27/22 at 9:35 am to jlovel7
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Even full brick/stone houses these days look bad to me. Because instead of actual structural walls, it’s still just a veneer on 2x studs. It looks like it came out of a box. Very little new construction looks as good as a home built 60+ years ago that’s been well maintained.
How do you think they made most brick homes 60+ years ago? Do you think they just build straight brick wall 10' high and they stuck a roof on them?
This post was edited on 4/27/22 at 9:39 am
Posted on 4/27/22 at 9:36 am to jlovel7
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Even full brick/stone houses these days look bad to me. Because instead of actual structural walls, it’s still just a veneer on 2x studs. It looks like it came out of a box. Very little new construction looks as good as a home built 60+ years ago that’s been well maintained.
how do you think they built brick homes in the 60s?
Posted on 4/27/22 at 9:53 am to Geekboy
Building a home has certain stresses and hiring a GC can be a task, but if you do thorough research on contractors and put together a good contract it can go well with inherent stresses and redo's or change orders. If you research flooring, fixtures, countertops, appliances, cabinets, etc. so you have an understanding of the style and pricing involved.
Some things you probably won't hear from your friends is they make changes along the way which will be out of scope and cost themselves more money because of it. Or they want higher end finishes and fixtures and go way beyond the allowances provided in the contract.
I had a customer that didn't like many of the elements that were on the blueprints and she would claim we were building it wrong. She just didn't like the actual look of it after being done. If you listened to her only you would say we as a homebuilder made huge mistakes. Their home went from a contracted price of 625,000.00 to 867,000.00 because of her incessant changes and the build went over the agreed upon deadline, but you would have thought we screwed her over if you were her friend.
People building homes just need to educate themselves on what that really entails.
Some things you probably won't hear from your friends is they make changes along the way which will be out of scope and cost themselves more money because of it. Or they want higher end finishes and fixtures and go way beyond the allowances provided in the contract.
I had a customer that didn't like many of the elements that were on the blueprints and she would claim we were building it wrong. She just didn't like the actual look of it after being done. If you listened to her only you would say we as a homebuilder made huge mistakes. Their home went from a contracted price of 625,000.00 to 867,000.00 because of her incessant changes and the build went over the agreed upon deadline, but you would have thought we screwed her over if you were her friend.
People building homes just need to educate themselves on what that really entails.
Posted on 4/27/22 at 9:55 am to Geekboy
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And it’s always caused them tremendous anxiety. I’m not talking about small glitches here and there. There are always huge frick ups by the builders during the project. They always get something wrong in the blueprints or there is a terrible price misunderstanding
You get what you pay for. Go cheap = get cheap service.
Posted on 4/27/22 at 9:56 am to Geekboy
I’ve been in my house a little over a year and it was painless. Maybe your friends just used bad home builders.
Posted on 4/27/22 at 9:59 am to Geekboy
I have nothing against building, but I would take a nicely built older home in a landlocked established neighborhood 9/10 times.
Posted on 4/27/22 at 10:03 am to Geekboy
Yeah it’s crazy. With the price of wood and basically all building materials being high as frick, this has got to be the absolutely worst time to be building a home.
Thank God my home is paid off. Staying here until I die. frick being house poor.
Thank God my home is paid off. Staying here until I die. frick being house poor.
Posted on 4/27/22 at 10:04 am to Slingin Pickle
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I just built my house and it was fantastic. Very pleased with the experience.
Lies
Posted on 4/27/22 at 10:05 am to concrete_tiger
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We built a used house
And you hated every minute of it.
Posted on 4/27/22 at 10:08 am to kywildcatfanone
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some hiccups along the way
A huge downplay.
Posted on 4/27/22 at 10:08 am to Geekboy
If our house fell apart tomorrow, I wouldn't build for a while, if ever. I would lease out my cattle pastures, hook up the 5th wheel with the wife and travel until I got sick of it.
Posted on 4/27/22 at 10:08 am to Lonnie Utah
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IF you think building a new house is a PITA, try a remodel on for size...
I'm working on a full remodel and it's tons of fun.
I'd like to give the previous owner a swift kick in the dick.
Posted on 4/27/22 at 10:10 am to Geekboy
We bought a 1/2 acre lot in North Carolina last December. I am really looking forward to having our house built. I can get exactly what I want in the place.
Posted on 4/27/22 at 10:20 am to Mid Iowa Tiger
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A 3400 sq ft walkout ranch orientated so I can watch the spring and fall sunset through the valley while drinking bourbon.
For some reason I first read this as sunrise and was like shite you have a problem
Posted on 4/27/22 at 10:29 am to RockyMtnTigerWDE
Man you hit nail on the head.
Most people have no clue about construction pr design and then bitch the whole time.
Certainly right now is not a good time to build a home, but in general building is usually better in the long run.
Example of ignorance is the guy couple pages back talking about homes look like shite now because brick is only veneer now compared to 60 years ago.....
Yea those 60 and 70s Era homes are just magnificent and just hold up great during hurricanes.
Go drive around after a strong hurricane and you will see....new homes are built much much stronger than older homes.
Most people have no clue about construction pr design and then bitch the whole time.
Certainly right now is not a good time to build a home, but in general building is usually better in the long run.
Example of ignorance is the guy couple pages back talking about homes look like shite now because brick is only veneer now compared to 60 years ago.....
Yea those 60 and 70s Era homes are just magnificent and just hold up great during hurricanes.
Go drive around after a strong hurricane and you will see....new homes are built much much stronger than older homes.
Posted on 4/27/22 at 10:30 am to Centinel
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You can have a quality built house, or a house that doesn't cost a ton to build. You can't have both.
I beg to differ.
You can buy a much older house and basically rebuild it to your specifications and do the work yourself. That way you know the quality of materials, the cost is wear and tear on your body and when in twenty years something goes wrong, you know how to access it, what might be a problem and how to repair it.
In twenty years, a house not built by you will have problems and there'll be nobody there who has a clue about how the chimney was encased with particle board and a brick facing, and the supports for the double chimney flue weren't installed correctly, etc.
Posted on 4/27/22 at 10:30 am to Geekboy
Started build in April 2020 and closed in January 2021. While there were Covid related delays and a headache here and there, it was an enjoyable experience overall.
I recommend to anyone building, regardless of experience/knowledge, to hire a third party inspector for foundation, frame and final inspection as they will find a lot of items that need to be addressed due to poor workmanship/building codes (especially in Texas).
I recommend to anyone building, regardless of experience/knowledge, to hire a third party inspector for foundation, frame and final inspection as they will find a lot of items that need to be addressed due to poor workmanship/building codes (especially in Texas).
Posted on 4/27/22 at 10:31 am to Geekboy
We had our house built and it went really smoothly. We liked being able to pick out the materials and have the home customized to how we wanted it instead of buying a new home and immediately doing a remodel.
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