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East Coast Band
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"Why our schools are failing" AL.com opinion
While an Alabama based article, it is pretty universal as to how it applies across the nation

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When people say our schools are failing, they have overstated the problem. The truth is many of our schools are failing, but some are doing quite well. The ones that are failing are not failing because prayer was taken out of schools, or teachers are lazy, or any of the other silly reasons the uninformed give.


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Most teachers do not teach because of the money. They are dedicated professionals who give their best because they love children and want to make a positive difference in their lives. They would do the best they could for the kids, regardless of the money.


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Some people think lack of funding from the state legislature contributes to school failure. They are partially right. It's estimated that lack of funding accounts for approximately 40% of school failures. Schools can't pay competitive salaries or provide the necessary supplies, equipment, and technology without proper funding. It's disgraceful that in many Alabama schools, parents must bring materials and supplies to school or teachers pay for them out of their personal funds.


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The greatest reason for school failures doesn't lie in the schools. It lies in the homes and because of poverty. The Birmingham Business Journal recently published a study sponsored by UAB which shows this clearly. There is a direct correlation between a school's grade and absenteeism. If homes can't get their children to go to school, schools can't teach them.


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An example of this is as follows:

Brookwood Forest Elementary--grade A (97)
Academic Achievement: 94.79
Academic Growth: 100
Chronic Absenteeism: 4.9%

Hudson K-8 School--grade F (54)
Academic Achievement: 29.42
Academic Growth: 71.53
Chronic Absenteeism: 38.05%


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Homes in poverty spend most of their time just trying to survive. They are more concerned with where their next meal will come from, how they are going to pay the rent and utilities and clothe themselves than about education. Many of the parents and relatives didn't complete school so children don't have good role models or encouragers.


Bottom line, the problem starts at the home, people. So, teach your children well.


LSU-MNCBABY
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re: "Why our schools are failing" AL.com opinion
Cultcha don’t care about yo schools, they care bout bein woke and gettin dat paper


Bama and Beer
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re: "Why our schools are failing" AL.com opinion
You know we preach dropping out after 9th grade here in Alabama. GED is where it's at. That's what great grandpappy, grand pow pow, my diddy, and I did. Why break the cycle?



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rowbear1922
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re: "Why our schools are failing" AL.com opinion
I didn't need a study by UAB or any other school to tell you this information.


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starsandstripes
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re: "Why our schools are failing" AL.com opinion
Lebron will fix everything. He has a documentary coming out.


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el Gaucho
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re: "Why our schools are failing" AL.com opinion
It’s not because of poverty


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StringedInstruments
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Poverty leads to opportunity gaps. Opportunity gaps lead to poor potential to take advantage of a quality education. A substandard education leads to a lack of economic opportunities. Lack of economic opportunities lead to poverty.

Not to mention that reinforced in this cycle is the inability to avoid making poor choices due to a lack of quality education.


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CoachChappy
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I’ve said this 1000Xs, until entitlements are reformed, high poverty schools will continue to fail. As long as being poor is comfortable enough, these people will put no emphasis on education.


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tduecen
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re: "Why our schools are failing" AL.com opinion
School fail because of a lot of reasons
1. Family/Home Life
2. Entitled Brats
3. The administration that is not on the same page as teachers or teachers not on the same page as the administration
4. Districts changing curriculum every two years
5. Teachers without proper training
6. Funding, having out of date books/no computers/no equipment/etc


StringedInstruments
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re: "Why our schools are failing" AL.com opinion
On another note, I do believe that the definition of "failing school" differs among socioeconomic classes. When my wife and I look for schools for our kids, we only consider those that have a strong history of sending students to the top state universities while providing a potential path to attend nationally recognized universities (Ivies, Public Ivies).

Some suburban schools are considered good schools by state metrics, but for me, they aren't good enough to provide the future I envision for my kids.

There are some people who simply look for schools with a decent graduation rate because the high school diploma - no matter where - is the primary goal.
This post was edited on 6/13 at 7:30 am


Clark W Griswold
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re: "Why our schools are failing" AL.com opinion
I agree with the article but there are many other factors associated with poverty. More kids in poverty have broken homes with lack of parenting overall. They are not taught to care about school because it wasn’t ever a priority for the parent. That’s a reason people pay for private school. You don’t want one kid ruining the experience for everyone else.


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Matisyeezy
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re: "Why our schools are failing" AL.com opinion
Didn’t read the article yet, but your summary is somewhat misleading. It’s not just teach your kids to do the right thing and education will be fixed. It’s that we as a society need to turn our eyes toward the systemic iniquity that creates poverty, and the systems that we put in place that perpetuate the cycle of poverty. It’s not until we deal with these things and actually create opportunity for people that you’ll see across the board improvements.

There are certainly some schools that do well working within these communities, but the steps they have to take to achieve commensurate results are often far beyond what you see in more affluent schools. And those measures are oftentimes unsustainable for the average person, which is why we see the absurdly high attrition rates among teachers.


Nado Jenkins83
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re: "Why our schools are failing" AL.com opinion
i still blame lazy teachers.


sweetwaterbilly
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re: "Why our schools are failing" AL.com opinion
Can confirm most of the schools in and around Mobile County are terrible.


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StringedInstruments
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re: "Why our schools are failing" AL.com opinion
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It’s that we as a society need to turn our eyes toward the systemic iniquity that creates poverty, and the systems that we put in place that perpetuate the cycle of poverty.


Could you define those systems?


rowbear1922
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re: "Why our schools are failing" AL.com opinion
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i still blame lazy teachers.


It is a lot more than that. I do believe MOST teachers truly do it to try and make a difference in young peoples' lives. Otherwise, why teach? We all know they are not doing it for the money. The bigger issue is the home life and parent/s not taking any active roll in the child's education.

Most parents in these sub-par schools ONLY care about how the child did in school when they fail the class, then they blame the teacher. Had the parent had ANY involvement throughout the semester, the child won't fail more times than not.

I hate the lazy teacher excuse because for one, I think you can't teach the unwilling. I know it's not every classroom but some of the videos you can find online in high school classrooms looks more like a circus then a teaching environment.


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ItNeverRains
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re: "Why our schools are failing" AL.com opinion
In other news:

people who routinely break the law are more likely to be incarcerated.

Males who are tall, fast, and athletic are more likely to be NBA players.

Water is indeed wet.


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BowlJackson
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Member since Sep 2013
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re: "Why our schools are failing" AL.com opinion
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i still blame lazy teachers


There a lot of shitty teachers out there, no doubt about that, but there's only so much teachers can do. There's schools and classrooms that not even Robin Williams in Dead Poet's Society could save.

When the kid and their family don't care, or the kid doesn't even have a real family, what is the teacher supposed to do?


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The Torch
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re: "Why our schools are failing" AL.com opinion
I thought the Casinos were going to fund education and make Louisiana Great Again.

Instead all the money goes out of state


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uway
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re: "Why our schools are failing" AL.com opinion
The problem is genetic, so yes, it does start at home, but that article is complete hogwash.

Lack of funding and transportation to school causing schools to fail? Lmao

“Most” teachers don’t teach because of the money?
Come on, son.

Absenteeism is a symptom, not the problem.




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