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re: Why is there a nationwide staffing shortage for so many occupations?
Posted on 6/21/22 at 9:51 am to gumbeaux
Posted on 6/21/22 at 9:51 am to gumbeaux
We have basic non-skilled laborers where I work (usually felons or guys on probation) who call in and no-show work constantly. More so than ever before.
I have gotten squeezed some by inflation thus far. I have made changes to my spending.
Somehow these sub $20/hr guys, most with a wife/gf and kids, can afford to work 30-hours a week no problem.
I sometimes wonder if I’m just an absolute schmuck that is clueless on how to get cash for free.
I have gotten squeezed some by inflation thus far. I have made changes to my spending.
Somehow these sub $20/hr guys, most with a wife/gf and kids, can afford to work 30-hours a week no problem.
I sometimes wonder if I’m just an absolute schmuck that is clueless on how to get cash for free.
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Posted on 6/21/22 at 9:51 am to shutterspeed
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Just sayin. Probably adds a piece to the puzzle.
Those stopped at the end of 2021. So no.
Posted on 6/21/22 at 9:53 am to Westbank111
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1million died of Covid - PROVE IT & put that stat next to other flus and virus death rate numbers over the years. All regular causes of death went down while Covid spiked, yeah, I believe that As soon as anyone is blaming Covid death rates for anything, loses all credibility.
In the context of the labor shortage issue, why people died is ultimately irrelevant. Irrespective of the underlying reason, the death rate in the US went up significantly in the last few years. Or are you denying that as well?
Posted on 6/21/22 at 9:53 am to Abstract Queso Dip
Boomers did not run up any debt. They worked hard and Earned their way. You are repeating bs that you read somewhere else, and are trying to ease your concious.
Posted on 6/21/22 at 9:54 am to gumbeaux
Brah everyone making bank on onlyfans or selling farts in mason jars
Posted on 6/21/22 at 9:56 am to EF Hutton
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Boomers did not run up any debt.
Posted on 6/21/22 at 9:57 am to gumbeaux
I'm a consultant for the concrete industry. You can't hire a concrete delivery driver right now. Signing bonuses, guaranteed 40 hrs a week, as much overtime as you want, and tons of advancement potential for anyone that shows initiative and some competence. I have customers that have to turn down business because they can't get concrete delivered.
Posted on 6/21/22 at 9:59 am to Joshjrn
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In the context of the labor shortage issue, why people died is ultimately irrelevant. Irrespective of the underlying reason, the death rate in the US went up significantly in the last few years. Or are you denying that as well?
If the people that dies weren't apart of the workforce, a huge portion weren't, then the death rate is irrelevant too
Posted on 6/21/22 at 9:59 am to gumbeaux
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Hasn’t government assistance for the pandemic ended?
I think some were still being paid out or just ended Can anyone confirm?
Posted on 6/21/22 at 10:00 am to Broke
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Which brings unemployment back up to a REAL number of 8.6%
There is no way 91% of working age people are working
Posted on 6/21/22 at 10:01 am to Salmon
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remember when you all argued with Mingo for like 20 pages because he said labor shortages wouldn't just end after the government assistance ran out and that other market forces were at play?
maybe y'all owe Mingo an apology?
i wasn't in that thread, but admit to being wrong about people going back to work. i don't have to apologize to Mingo, but i misread the tea leaves badly.
i really figured once rent moratorium and checks ceased... combined with people getting their asses handed to them for not realizing they were going to have to pay back the EITC that shite would get fixed in a hurry. Even more perplexing is people not taking those jobs when the cost of everything is so much higher.
the whole thing is perplexing as we have low unemployment numbers, but everybody is hiring. and they're not hiring at minimum wage. the market has mostly corrected themselves without government interference as i don't know a single place that's paying less than $12 an hour. my son is going to enter the work force next year making 3x what i did at his age most likely.
probably 10 times in the last year have i went somewhere and they closed because there wasn't enough workers for the time being in the middle of the day.
it's a combination of factor with gig economy, work from home, boomers retiring, etc.
i keep thinking we're going to hit a breaking point but for some reason we keep persisting forward.
Posted on 6/21/22 at 10:01 am to jrodLSUke
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I think some were still being paid out or just ended Can anyone confirm?
I can confirm you have no idea what you are talking about
Posted on 6/21/22 at 10:03 am to gumbeaux
It's not so much a shortage of labor, it's a shortage of labor at rates that some businesses are trying to pay. It's been an employee's market for a while now and businesses that fail to adapt will have a hard time attracting talent.
I don't buy the Covid handouts argument anymore, that all ended a long time ago. No one is still living off of the government checks from two years ago. Number one, they weren't that much, and number two those people aren't that responsible.
I think two big factors are at play. A ton of people got early retirements as companies looked to cut staff during the pandemic, coupled with remote work opportunities exploding. You have a lot more options now when job hunting, and local businesses have to compete with the Internet and working from home in your pajamas. I have several friends that noped out of going back to the office and make the same money working from the house.
I don't buy the Covid handouts argument anymore, that all ended a long time ago. No one is still living off of the government checks from two years ago. Number one, they weren't that much, and number two those people aren't that responsible.
I think two big factors are at play. A ton of people got early retirements as companies looked to cut staff during the pandemic, coupled with remote work opportunities exploding. You have a lot more options now when job hunting, and local businesses have to compete with the Internet and working from home in your pajamas. I have several friends that noped out of going back to the office and make the same money working from the house.
This post was edited on 6/21/22 at 10:04 am
Posted on 6/21/22 at 10:03 am to McCaigBro69
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e have basic non-skilled laborers where I work (usually felons or guys on probation) who call in and no-show work constantly. More so than ever before.
I have gotten squeezed some by inflation thus far. I have made changes to my spending.
Somehow these sub $20/hr guys, most with a wife/gf and kids, can afford to work 30-hours a week no problem.
I sometimes wonder if I’m just an absolute schmuck that is clueless on how to get cash for free.
i use to run temps and shitty 18 year olds at an old job. We were always trying to find a good yard hand or two. It was a shite job, outside all day in Houston on the forklift or turning a wrench. If i couldn't get a temp or find a guy for it, i was having to work inside and out.
pretty much every guy the temp agency sent had a record. My favorite guy was from new orleans, i would pick him up in Sunny Side at 530am because his car never worked. He had a girl and couple kids. He worked his arse off for us. I got into with my manger before i quit, he was ready to go to war for me. Of course, i leave and he messed up the forklift a few days later, test positive for everything under the sun.
His place in Sunny Side was an absolute dump. These guys just don't have the same expenses as you and i.
This post was edited on 6/21/22 at 10:04 am
Posted on 6/21/22 at 10:04 am to Doublebagger
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5-15/hr - Cannot find workers
And if you can, you better baby them, because they can and will walk and find another job in 24 hours.
Posted on 6/21/22 at 10:05 am to Lester Earl
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The restaurant industry is the one I notice it more and I don't even eat out often. People are not tipping much, making those folks earn less.
I tip way more since 2019 than I ever did.
Posted on 6/21/22 at 10:08 am to WhiskeyThrottle
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we can't find ANY qualified candidates when we have an opening. Tons of resumes come in still, but nothing that we're looking for.
That's odd because I work in manufacturing and we can't get resumes. It used to be whenever we posted a job we would sift throw 100s of resumes to find a handful of remotely qualified candidates; but I am no longer getting the random resumes for the positions we try to hire for. And, when we do get resumes, and try to schedule an interview we get a lot of no call/no shows.
Posted on 6/21/22 at 10:08 am to Mingo Was His NameO
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If the people that dies weren't apart of the workforce, a huge portion weren't, then the death rate is irrelevant too
But some of the people who died clearly were part of the workforce. So shouldn’t we be dickering over how many people that was and not just scoffing at the cause?
Posted on 6/21/22 at 10:09 am to McCaigBro69
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I sometimes wonder if I’m just an absolute schmuck that is clueless on how to get cash for free.
i'm an idiot on finances for the most part, but i often question if there's some major welfare program or grant that i'm missing. i'm in a downtown historic district so i live by millionaires and crack addicts. 3 of my neighbors don't work one bit and have maintained a (subpar by my standards, but) acceptable lifestyle and have plenty of money for weed, cars, cigarettes, and booze.
This post was edited on 6/21/22 at 10:10 am
Posted on 6/21/22 at 10:09 am to LSUtoOmaha
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Also:
One million people died of COVID.
Fewer young people 16-22 working
Maybe a quarter of which were working age, and some portion of that wasn't working due to typical labor participation attrition (so probably 30 - 40% were out of the workforce).
Immigration flow disruptions into the U.S. are a much bigger reason than Covid deaths. We were down a cumulative 1,000,000+ in net migration between 2020 and 2021. That's a huge impact on the workforce, especially in lower wage ranges.
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