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re: Why is Mandeville/ Covington traffic so bad?

Posted on 5/21/19 at 8:29 pm to
Posted by Zachary
Member since Jan 2007
2017 posts
Posted on 5/21/19 at 8:29 pm to
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It took me 42 minutes to get from 12 down 59 to my office last Thursday morning. Construction at the Sharp Road roundabout had it at a crawl.
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Where do you work?
This post was edited on 5/21/19 at 8:31 pm
Posted by tigerpawl
Can't get there from here.
Member since Dec 2003
22628 posts
Posted on 5/21/19 at 8:29 pm to
And let us not forget the "quaint" little frequently opened drawbridge in Madisonville on Hwy 22. 16,000 cars per day cross that bridge. On occasion, cars stack up all the way back to Mandeville.
This post was edited on 5/21/19 at 9:23 pm
Posted by JimmyMcGoo
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2015
625 posts
Posted on 5/21/19 at 8:37 pm to
Your population numbers are way off base because they don’t take in to consideration the huge number of illegals on the Northshore.
Posted by 4LSU2
Member since Dec 2009
38165 posts
Posted on 5/21/19 at 8:46 pm to
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Where do you work?


Between Sharp and 1088.
Posted by WITCH DOCTOR
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2009
3474 posts
Posted on 5/21/19 at 8:51 pm to
3 more bridges, toll tags...problem solved...
Posted by soccerfüt
Location: A Series of Tubes
Member since May 2013
76146 posts
Posted on 5/21/19 at 8:54 pm to
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my wife wants to move every after noon
Yes she does, admirably.
Posted by GREENHEAD22
Member since Nov 2009
21024 posts
Posted on 5/21/19 at 9:04 pm to
Dont worry yat, it is coming. Major pushes behind the scene right now to straighten and levee the abita and bogue falaya. You will get your wish and every wetland will be drained and every green space cleared so you can have your precious strip malls and neighborhoods.
Posted by Mikey P
Gulfport, MS
Member since May 2017
536 posts
Posted on 5/21/19 at 9:50 pm to
Too many relocated Chalmatians
Posted by Theboot32
Mandeville/Poplarville
Member since Jan 2016
2454 posts
Posted on 5/21/19 at 10:03 pm to
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Between Sharp and 1088


Take the 1088 exit instead of 59... I live off 59 and never use that exit
Posted by keakar
Member since Jan 2017
30152 posts
Posted on 5/21/19 at 10:56 pm to
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I never understood how they didn’t plan out their roads better to ease the congestion.


the stuff they do to traffic is what slows it all down, the way they throw red lights everywhere

if they would just undo all the stuff they do to "help" traffic, then it would flow a lot better in most cases
This post was edited on 5/21/19 at 10:59 pm
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
140573 posts
Posted on 5/21/19 at 11:45 pm to
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The I-12 is screwed because apparantly driving over an elevated roadway is just to complicated to do at the speed limit. That added to merging into traffic with a mile long merge lane is mind blowing. Every dipshit needs to get over ceossing a solid white line because merging in at speed would be to difficult




This is so infuriating.

It’s so amazing how traffic bottlenecks at the Tchefuncta and there is no bottleneck except for dumb mother f’ers slowing down. I mean it’s even okay to go 60 over the river. Stop slowing down to a fricking crawl for no reason. It is the weirdest thing.

I-12 needs to be 8 lanes in that area.
Posted by White Roach
Member since Apr 2009
9666 posts
Posted on 5/22/19 at 2:18 am to
8 would be better, but 6 will improve things dramatically.

The Hwy 22 bridge is a problem, but what are you gonna do? You could build the approach for a high rise bridge on the east side without too much disruption, but where do you land it on the Madisonville side? The was a proposal to build a private toll road a while back. It would exit 22 around Fairview-Riverside SP and connect with Hwy 21 north of Bayou DeZaire/Madisonville. I don't know how that would work with the park and the barge yard (I assume it was landing there).

The Bogue Falaya bridge on 190 has needed to be replaced for at least 20 years. I don't know why it hasn't happened.

And for all the bitching and moaning about the construction on 190, it's going pretty fast (relatively speaking) and it seems to be working. I left Claiborne Hill and didn't catch a red light all the way to I-12. The speed limit is lower, but the drive is faster. The same can be said about the Hwy 21 widening project. It was a bitch while it was happening, but the drive is much improved.
Posted by TulaneFan
Slidell, LA
Member since Jan 2008
14092 posts
Posted on 5/22/19 at 6:30 am to
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It’s so amazing how traffic bottlenecks at the Tchefuncta and there is no bottleneck except for dumb mother f’ers slowing down.


I don’t understand that either, and It’s not even a big bridge or anything.
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
42715 posts
Posted on 5/22/19 at 6:35 am to
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The population of Covington is around 11,000 people and Mandeville is about the same.


I agree that traffic is disproportionately terrible, this statement is false. Covington had a population of ~10,000 before Katrina. No way now that it only has that many. Maybe, MAYBE Covington proper but the surrounding area absolutely booked overnight and the roads never kept up.

They are behind the times due to the post Katrina influx and will really struggle to ever catch up
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
42715 posts
Posted on 5/22/19 at 6:52 am to
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Basically, due to superior public schools, natural beauty, abundant recreation, low crime and a growing cultural scene, a whole lot of folks moved here in the last 20 years ... and now they complain about the traffic.


As someone born and raised in Covington (now live in BR) and who knows you and your current role, this post made me smile a lot more than I thought I was goin to this morning.

Keep working on improving infrastructure like you are and Covington, and the whole north shore, will eventually catch up as it seems to be one of the few areas in LA with competent leadership
Posted by DevilDagNS
Member since Dec 2017
3017 posts
Posted on 5/22/19 at 6:56 am to
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a whole lot of folks moved here in the last 20 years ... and now they complain about the traffic


Exactly. All the transplants and their silly facebook citizen groups whining about development. It was nice before you got here dipshit, back when your tacky subdivision was hunting lease.
Posted by tigerpawl
Can't get there from here.
Member since Dec 2003
22628 posts
Posted on 5/22/19 at 7:00 am to
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It’s so amazing how traffic bottlenecks at the Tchefuncta and there is no bottleneck except for dumb mother f’ers slowing down.
My theory is that there are big trees looming/in close proximity to the bridge, creating the false perception that the trees represent a physical threat to drivers when in reality they don't. When they approach the bridge and see the trees, drivers tell themselves "I'm driving too fast" and instinctively slow down to increase their safety margins. You get the opposite sensation when your driving through a forest and you break out into the open. It gives you the false sensation that you're slowing down when you're actually not. It's a reference thing.

It's called "The Street Tree Effect and Driver Safety" Driver perception is manipulated by the edge of the visual environment affecting the scale, proportion and rhythm of the driving experience.

"Preliminary questions were presented to identify participants’ predisposition to the positive or negative effect of certain roadside features on perceptions of safety, particularly street trees."



St. Tammany could save the $25 million they snagged for I-12 widening if they would simply cut down the damn trees.
This post was edited on 5/22/19 at 8:14 am
Posted by WITCH DOCTOR
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2009
3474 posts
Posted on 5/22/19 at 7:09 am to
We cross the I-12 bridge daily and cross the causeways....every soccer-mom & plumber in a jacked up truck immediately jams on the brakes on anything that is elevated. Like there is some evil creature at the apex of the high rise of the bridge. These retards cause others to change to the left lane....bam there is your traffic jam..

Posted by Meauxjeaux
102836 posts including my alters
Member since Jun 2005
47433 posts
Posted on 5/22/19 at 7:46 am to
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I swear that a barrier set up in the merge on to 12 from 190 would solve this problem.


This!

Well partially... because you'd still have the idiots who can't merge the northbound and southbound 190 traffic prior to the barrier... foiled again!
Posted by Meauxjeaux
102836 posts including my alters
Member since Jun 2005
47433 posts
Posted on 5/22/19 at 7:50 am to
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8 would be better, but 6 will improve things dramatically.


Actually, installing a service road and bridge over the Tchefuncte would help immensely... it could keep the local traffic off of I-12.

You could even build them and not disturb I-12 traffic. Holy cow!

$100 says Department of Transportation Department never thought of that.
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