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re: Why does Florida just kick our arse in post hurricane recovery?
Posted on 10/13/26 at 12:21 pm to BadatBourre
Posted on 10/13/26 at 12:21 pm to BadatBourre
I'm in St Charles Parish and Ida was still damn near a Cat 4 when it came through and it stayed for hours. Can't compare the 2 storms.
Posted on 10/13/26 at 12:30 pm to BadatBourre
Florida and FPL put a shite ton into infrastructure after 2004 Frances -Jeanne and 2005 Wilma. Buried lines, made sure gas stations have generators etc.
Posted on 10/13/26 at 12:32 pm to BadatBourre
I talked to a few of those out of state crews helping in gouma after Ida. They all mentioned how bad our infrastructure was. We are a welfare state where we just wait for a storm to damage something and we get the fed funds to fix ir
Posted on 10/13/26 at 12:34 pm to BadatBourre
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What's the difference between these 2 hurricanes? While I understand a Cat 4 to a Cat 2 can't really be compared, is there someone with knowledge that can explain the differences?
One group cares about getting power back to the residents. The other cares about trying to get extra $$ from storm restoration by milking outages and trying to make it look like a bigger deal/ worse than it is.
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We are a welfare state where we just wait for a storm to damage something and we get the fed funds to fix ir
Like he said above.
I've said for years I think the power companies purposely leave certain areas uncut above power lines so they can claim all the outages/ damage and make extra on the backend. Should be investigated.
This post was edited on 10/13/26 at 12:38 pm
Posted on 10/13/26 at 1:11 pm to BadatBourre
During Gustav I was working disaster relief catering. I lived in Capitol Heights the first house off Government Street. I was the first house to get my power restored on my street because of that fact (my power was tied into Government Street's power while everyone else's was tied into the grid from Capitol Heights Road). It took 13 days for my house to get power restored. 16 days for the rest of the street.
While feeding the Entergy crews and all the Line Men from out of state, they explained that the reason was simple: They couldn't start working on repairing and replacing the power grid until all the debris was cleared away. And there was an ungodly amount of debris (fallen trees, limbs, etc.) from this storm because it was the first major storm to hit Baton Rouge since Andrew. That's a long time-period without any sort of high force winds clearing out weak tree structures and allowing more tree density than there should be.
The most glaring thing I've noticed since Gustav is the fact that before that storm the power in the Garden District would go out anytime someone sneezed outside. After Gustav passed through the power rarely goes out, even during heavy storms. Gustav cleared out all the weak tree limbs so now the power lines aren't taken down when one snaps due to wind.
Louisiana takes longer for "recovery" and to restore power because of environmental factors more than anything else. Trust me: Power companies want to get power restored as fast as humanly possible. As long as power is out, they are not making money, only spending money. But they can't send their repair crews out in the field to work on anything until they assess the damage and what/where they need cleaned up first. Not to mention if they can even get crews and equipment to locations safely and if they have a good foundation for new installation of equipment (can they securely install poles and the like in the ground or do they have to wait for it to drain/dry more.)
Florida gets hurricanes on a more regular basis preventing weak tree buildup, so the environmental damage and delays aren't as much of a factor.
While feeding the Entergy crews and all the Line Men from out of state, they explained that the reason was simple: They couldn't start working on repairing and replacing the power grid until all the debris was cleared away. And there was an ungodly amount of debris (fallen trees, limbs, etc.) from this storm because it was the first major storm to hit Baton Rouge since Andrew. That's a long time-period without any sort of high force winds clearing out weak tree structures and allowing more tree density than there should be.
The most glaring thing I've noticed since Gustav is the fact that before that storm the power in the Garden District would go out anytime someone sneezed outside. After Gustav passed through the power rarely goes out, even during heavy storms. Gustav cleared out all the weak tree limbs so now the power lines aren't taken down when one snaps due to wind.
Louisiana takes longer for "recovery" and to restore power because of environmental factors more than anything else. Trust me: Power companies want to get power restored as fast as humanly possible. As long as power is out, they are not making money, only spending money. But they can't send their repair crews out in the field to work on anything until they assess the damage and what/where they need cleaned up first. Not to mention if they can even get crews and equipment to locations safely and if they have a good foundation for new installation of equipment (can they securely install poles and the like in the ground or do they have to wait for it to drain/dry more.)
Florida gets hurricanes on a more regular basis preventing weak tree buildup, so the environmental damage and delays aren't as much of a factor.
Posted on 10/13/26 at 1:20 pm to BadatBourre
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Down in Houma,
SLECA
Posted on 10/13/26 at 1:21 pm to BadatBourre
quote:Apparently, you don't.
While I understand a Cat 4 to a Cat 2 can't really be compared
Posted on 10/13/26 at 1:22 pm to Aforem7
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Not only is Florida's response typically more organized, but they have made a lot of progress with building codes in coastal areas and have made a lot of investments in upgrading their power grid to be more resilient. Doing both of those requires upsetting some people (causes building along the coast to be much more expensive) and takes a lot of investment up front, but it signficantly reduces damage costs later on and allows for quicker recovery.
LA is way behind that.
You can thank the Louisiana Uniform Construction Code Council for ensuring that Louisiana doesn't improve. They fought for years against the 2009 energy codes with a return on investment of about 3 months. We're talking about changes that increase the cost of an average home by about $250, and they argued it was anti-business. A couple of years ago, they fought tooth and nail against including the requirement to build 2 feet above the 100-year base flood elevation. Of course, the worst one is named Randy.
Also, Louisiana is a home-rule state, meaning that our building code enforcement is done by local yokels, whereas the State of Florida oversees building codes from the state level.
Posted on 10/13/26 at 1:26 pm to tigerpimpbot
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Florida and FPL put a shite ton into infrastructure after 2004 Frances -Jeanne and 2005 Wilma. Buried lines, made sure gas stations have generators etc.
There was a situation about 15 years ago where Louisiana received a bunch of generators for similar reasons, but they never seemed to get installed. I'm not sure whatever came of that, but it was right up there with the formaldehyde trailers as far as FEMA frick-ups in Louisiana.
Posted on 10/13/26 at 1:52 pm to TheOcean
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Desantis
Florida was quite adequate before ron came around.
Posted on 10/13/26 at 2:32 pm to MoarKilometers
We are comparing the geography of Destin to Houma. Comon bruh
Posted on 10/13/26 at 2:38 pm to BadatBourre
Their entire economy is based on tourism.
Their livelihood depends on getting that shite up and running asap.
Their livelihood depends on getting that shite up and running asap.
This post was edited on 10/13/26 at 2:44 pm
Posted on 10/13/26 at 3:06 pm to Houston problem
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Their entire economy is based on tourism.
Just under 8%, actually.
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Their livelihood depends on getting that shite up and running asap.
Just like your state
Posted on 10/13/26 at 3:09 pm to BadatBourre
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Why does Florida just kick our arse in post hurricane recovery?
Lots of practice?
What was it the hurricane in 26' was one of the worst ever and was when South Florida was just getting their tourist game on.
Florida is one of the few states I pay attention to EVERY hurricane season.
Posted on 10/13/26 at 3:10 pm to BadatBourre
Are you serious? One is Florida and one is Louisiana.
Posted on 10/13/26 at 3:15 pm to MoarKilometers
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Just under 8%, actually.
Is that base, or multiplier?
Ocala for horses
Orlando for Disney
South Florida for old people
Keys for fishing
That is just off the top of my head
How many in those groups came as tourists first and are now residents?
Posted on 10/13/26 at 3:21 pm to BadatBourre
Because Florida politicians don't get as many kickbacks from Entergy to keep operating with shiddy infrastructure, Florida doesn't have major metropolitan areas under sea level and most importantly, the state government in Florida has far less retards from top to bottom.
Posted on 10/13/26 at 3:46 pm to BadatBourre
I would think accessibility and storm damage would be huge factors. Comparing the power restoration for these 2 storms is not the gotcha you think it is. BTW my camp was without power for a month and a half or longer from IDA.

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