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Why do we have to "have a dialogue" on race?

Posted on 10/11/16 at 6:56 pm
Posted by Landmass
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Posted on 10/11/16 at 6:56 pm
You hear it all the time. We have to talk about race. We have to have an open dialogue about race... why? First off, there's no such thing as an open dialogue on this subject unless you are defending one side and alienating the other. That is the only dialogue that is accepted. Secondly, it seems like we should concentrate on treating everyone the same. Somehow, I don't think that equality is the point.
Posted by lsucoonass
shreveport and east texas
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Posted on 10/11/16 at 6:58 pm to
Yeah it's bullshite
Posted by upgrayedd
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Posted on 10/11/16 at 6:59 pm to
quote:

Somehow, I don't think that equality is the point.


It should be the point, but it never turns into that.

The aggrieved party always wants a retaliatory advantage in response to past grievances whether they be perceived or real.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 10/11/16 at 6:59 pm to
Dialogue on race simply means "you better listen to me because you are wrong."
Posted by Grim
Member since Dec 2013
12489 posts
Posted on 10/11/16 at 6:59 pm to
"dialogue" is a code word for "We want everyone to be labeled a racist"
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
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Posted on 10/11/16 at 7:00 pm to
quote:

open dialogue about race.
they want the complete opposite of that
Posted by Kafka
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Posted on 10/11/16 at 7:01 pm to
6 PMs, 3 bans
Posted by Upperdecker
St. George, LA
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Posted on 10/11/16 at 7:05 pm to
they know they'll win a dialogue bc they can call you a racist if you don't give in to their demands
This post was edited on 10/11/16 at 7:06 pm
Posted by Peazey
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Posted on 10/11/16 at 7:07 pm to
quote:

Why do we have to "have a dialogue" on race?


Because problems don't often get solved by ignoring them.

quote:

First off, there's no such thing as an open dialogue on this subject unless you are defending one side and alienating the other.


This is true, but it's like that with any sort of political topic from both sides of just about every issue. At least that's how the loudest voices seem to present it.
Posted by AlonsoWDC
Memphis, where it ain't Ten-a-Key
Member since Aug 2014
9387 posts
Posted on 10/11/16 at 7:09 pm to
You don't have to.

Feel free to ignore whatever you want.

Just don't put up the self-persecution flag when you come back about it.
Posted by upgrayedd
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Posted on 10/11/16 at 7:10 pm to
quote:


This is true, but it's like that with any sort of political topic from both sides of just about every issue. At least that's how the loudest voices seem to present it.


I find the race topic is guided almost completely by emotion. Every time it is discussed, it ends with "but you don't know what it's like to be (insert race), so you can't tell me anything".
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
41600 posts
Posted on 10/11/16 at 7:13 pm to
A dialogue that moves our country towards true equality is what we need.

However, on one side, you have people who believe the other isn't really equal, and on the other side, you have people who don't want equality, but rather, their turn at the top.

We desperately need someone like MLK in these times.
Posted by Lucky5150
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Member since Jun 2016
1557 posts
Posted on 10/11/16 at 7:15 pm to
Rap and crap all you want in the street. Shoot each other. Could care less. Just stay out MY damn yard
Posted by TheFonz
Somewhere in Louisiana
Member since Jul 2016
23541 posts
Posted on 10/11/16 at 7:16 pm to
Their idea of having a "dialogue" is for us to sit there, shut up, and let them yell in our faces about how we are white devils.
This post was edited on 10/11/16 at 7:17 pm
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
Member since May 2012
61480 posts
Posted on 10/11/16 at 7:16 pm to
What is inequitable in 2016? Racially speaking.
This post was edited on 10/11/16 at 7:18 pm
Posted by PrivatePublic
Member since Nov 2012
17848 posts
Posted on 10/11/16 at 7:18 pm to
If you ever manage to engage in a civil discourse with a BLM supporter, you can ultimately logic dead-end them into the corner where they will admit it's not about equality, it's about getting ahead.

Of course, 99% of the time you'll never even get close to civil discourse.
Posted by Hammertime
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Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 10/11/16 at 7:19 pm to
Generally, the people wanting to have a dialogue are completely insulated from poor black people
Posted by upgrayedd
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Member since Mar 2013
139207 posts
Posted on 10/11/16 at 7:19 pm to
quote:

Of course, 99% of the time you'll never even get close to civil discourse.



Don't bring up crime stats. They hate that shite.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
120445 posts
Posted on 10/11/16 at 7:20 pm to
Yes, but the ones who claim that want a dialogue on race don't want the dialog.
Posted by blucollarskolar
Member since Sep 2014
299 posts
Posted on 10/11/16 at 7:23 pm to
If you have different "groups" they will never treat each other the same until they act the same way.

In other words... You can't expect anything better than what we have now until there is no longer a difference between them.

I'm not talking about equality, I'm talking about how each group acts and the way we think.
This post was edited on 10/11/16 at 7:26 pm
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