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re: Why do we care about JonBenet Ramsey?

Posted on 2/17/19 at 9:23 pm to
Posted by tiger81
Brentwood, TN.
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 2/17/19 at 9:23 pm to
This case is a real mystery rapped inside a riddle. One minute it points toward the parents, next toward an intruder. Had Lou Schmitt lived, he might have solved it. Maybe.
Posted by Lsupimp
Ersatz Amerika-97.6% phony & fake
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 2/17/19 at 9:25 pm to
Yes the police in Boulder, particularly then , were completely inept. There had been like five murders in a decade in The city of Boulder. These were guys who basically investigated underage drinking. The DA ( Alex Jones initially and that incompetent lady later ) May have been worse.
Posted by HonoraryCoonass
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 2/17/19 at 9:27 pm to
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Also because Boulder was the perfect boutique town. There was a note. She was cute. The dad had a successful company. They were respected in the community. The weirdness of the beauty pageants. There were many factors that made that story pop.


Plus tons of video of JonBenet in those pageants.
Posted by tiger81
Brentwood, TN.
Member since Jan 2008
21287 posts
Posted on 2/17/19 at 9:28 pm to
Yeah, I agree. If parent's did it, they just get rid of body. No way they write that note and mangle their child. Pasty went thru hours of police interrogation and never waivered.
Posted by East Coast Band
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 2/17/19 at 9:29 pm to
There was always a risk of a neighbor seeing their car driving somewhere inexplicably late at night. You're implying that they lived in a remote area. Their home is in the middle of a suburban neighborhood.
Further, their vehicle would have left tracks in the snow had they driven that night.
Posted by Dalosaqy
I can't quite re
Member since Dec 2007
13566 posts
Posted on 2/17/19 at 9:30 pm to
Most of us don't.
Posted by Lsupimp
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Member since Nov 2003
86480 posts
Posted on 2/17/19 at 9:31 pm to
There is no need to condescend. To answer your question you must realize that the vast majority of people given instructions of one kind or another like this, call the police anyhow. They realize they need law enforcement and the core competencies Of law enforcement. That’s not very compelling to me.
Posted by Caplewood
Atlanta
Member since Jun 2010
39477 posts
Posted on 2/17/19 at 9:36 pm to
It wasn’t really a garrote though right?
This post was edited on 2/17/19 at 9:37 pm
Posted by Lsupimp
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Member since Nov 2003
86480 posts
Posted on 2/17/19 at 9:45 pm to
I agree the risk of a neighbor witnessing a car leaving was possible but highly improbable. That back alley is private as heck and I would think you would have had to be up in the middle of the night and standing at an upstairs window to see it. Plus cars came and went down that alley all day and night.

And let’s be real, it’s in a neighborhood, but it is literally two minutes and one turn up a single road to basically wilderness. And their entrance point is very private in terms of visibility.They had already left tracks in the snow at their home all day and in the alley and baseline road was clear of snow.
Posted by Cold Drink
Member since Mar 2016
3482 posts
Posted on 2/17/19 at 11:11 pm to
If it was that easy to whisk her away then why didn’t the intruder/murderer do just that?

Why did no one in the house hear her scream?

How did the intruder know his way around the house to hide her in the “wine cellar?”

Why was Patsy wearing the same dress as the night before?

Why did Jombenet have pineapple in her stomach?

This is just off the top of my head, not going into the bizarre, location of the note and timing of the call, the weirdo behavior of the parents the morning of, the staged break in, etc...




And look - each one of those questions might have plausible explanation. But to believe there’s a plausible explanation for all of them stretches the imagination.

Someone in the family did it and both parents covered it up. Period. Every other explanation is a far fetched conspiracy theory.
Posted by Lsupimp
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Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 2/17/19 at 11:26 pm to
Oh I see. Everything but your explanation is conspiracy theory . Very logical , lol.

Ask yourself this - WHY would both parents agree to be part of a coverup? ( If Burke did it , they rush her to the hospital and he walks away from it completely anyhow because he’s a little kid and it would be framed as a childhood rough housing tragedy or something). So I would guess you would have to believe BOTH parents were involved in some kind of sexual abuse of the child and that they would intentionally kill their child to cover it up . So what’s your motive ? Why did one of them kill her and why would the other parent cover for the other ?

Posted by Cold Drink
Member since Mar 2016
3482 posts
Posted on 2/18/19 at 12:01 am to
We know the following FACTS:

* autopsy evidence suggests a history of sexual abuse

* her brother beat her with a gold club

* her brother would smear feces all over her room

* the letter was in Patsy’s handwriting

* patsy was wearing the same dress the following day (wtf?!)

* the note told the family to “rest up” even though they were already sleeping (?)

* neighbors heard screaming but apparently no one in the house woke up from their peaceful slumber while their daughter was beaten and garrotted

* family wouldn’t cooperate with the investigation

* grand jury wanted to charge the family but was torpedoed

* there were no footprints or any evidence of a break in

* the FBI knows of no other case where an intruder breaks in, kills the person, and then remains at the location for maybe an hour to scribble a weird random note. Oh and the note referenced John’s Xmas bonus money.

I could go on and on. I truly don’t understand how you orvanyone else could believe some intruder did it. You don’t have to believe the parents did it beyond a reasonable doubt, but to think that someone other than them did it is delusional IMO
This post was edited on 2/18/19 at 12:03 am
Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
Member since May 2018
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Posted on 2/18/19 at 12:40 am to
Because her family was framed and some pathetic punk walked away free.
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
178323 posts
Posted on 2/18/19 at 12:45 am to
She was born less than two months after me. A shame I never got the chance to match with her on bumble and bang her.
Posted by Gris Gris
OTIS!NO RULES FOR SAUCES ON STEAK!!
Member since Feb 2008
49636 posts
Posted on 2/18/19 at 1:19 am to
Where are your links in support of each of those facts?
Posted by LSUintheNW
At your mom’s house
Member since Aug 2009
37021 posts
Posted on 2/18/19 at 4:34 am to
quote:

I would guess that the main one was the grotesque nature of child beauty pageants which sexualize 6 year old girls. And because people reacted emotionally to that and formed immediate opinions.




I was more interested that a rich family was able to cover up killing their kid all the while thinking they could direct the police away from them due to power and money.
Posted by tigerinthebueche
Member since Oct 2010
38222 posts
Posted on 2/18/19 at 5:36 am to
Well did they ever solve this case or not?
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
64531 posts
Posted on 2/18/19 at 5:39 am to
quote:

know all the principles involved personally.


The principles?
Posted by LSUintheNW
At your mom’s house
Member since Aug 2009
37021 posts
Posted on 2/18/19 at 5:52 am to
quote:

Well did they ever solve this case or not?




Nope. Either the killer died from guilt ridden amped up cancer or just settled with CBS.

Posted by East Coast Band
Member since Nov 2010
66984 posts
Posted on 2/18/19 at 6:05 am to
You don't have to search long to find any of the links. Everything listed is fairly common knowledge.
There is plenty more. Lsupimp is defending the Ramseys solely on the fact he's been near the nice home and area and is going off the assumption that no one living in that nice of a house in that nice of a neighborhood could possibly have committed the kidnapping and murder of Jonbenet.
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