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re: Why can't S&WB get the pumps to run?

Posted on 6/18/26 at 4:41 pm to
Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 6/18/26 at 4:41 pm to
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Ah, read the "that" as something different. 3 inches of rain is outside the design already.

Yeah, it was somewhat oddly worded, but a rough translation would be: “Had we gotten 9 inches, we likely would have been fricked anyway, but we would have been uber fricked if we got 9 inches and the pumps failed. Fortunately, we only got 3 inches, so even with the pump failures, it wasn’t that bad.”
Posted by mchias1
Member since Dec 2009
1003 posts
Posted on 6/18/26 at 4:41 pm to
The multi pump allows for cycling the pumps so 1 pump is not always run. You can also use more or less pumps depending on the demand along with varying each pumps speed.
Posted by THRILLHO
Old Metairie near Cleary
Member since Apr 2006
50500 posts
Posted on 6/18/26 at 4:55 pm to
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Not sure they are VFDs. They just convert from 60 to 25 for the older pumps.



The difference between those two possibilities is pretty much exclusive to programming.

Either way, you need a rectifier (a series of diodes + capacitors that convert AC to DC) followed by an inverter (transistors controlled by low voltage programming to convert DC to AC). I don't see the benefit in equipment that converts 60hz to exclusively 25hz given that it's fairly easy to include 1-24hz, but I'm not familiar with how these old arse pump motors work.
Posted by White Bear
Homeless
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Posted on 6/18/26 at 5:08 pm to
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mchias1
Posted by LivingstonLaw
Livingston County
Member since Jul 2021
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Posted on 6/18/26 at 6:34 pm to
Sex Rooms

Payroll fraud and a ‘secret sex room’: Troubling allegations at New Orleans S&WB

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This post was edited on 6/18/26 at 6:36 pm
Posted by Cage Fighter Trainee
Member since Aug 2024
336 posts
Posted on 6/18/26 at 6:34 pm to
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On these size pumps you needs VFDs. If you don't you'd brown out the neighbors when motors are switched to line feed. The VFDs help the pumps start slowly reducing the inrush current. Also they can vary the pump speeds as the rain rate varies. Say you have 1" of rain you can turn one pump on at 50% power. You get 2" you go up to 100% or start a 2nd pump at 50%.


Posted by kayjay
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2007
730 posts
Posted on 6/18/26 at 7:13 pm to
Next on the list after they fix the pot holes in the street.
Posted by TheHarahanian
Actually not Harahan as of 6/2023
Member since May 2017
24315 posts
Posted on 6/18/26 at 7:35 pm to
I’m going to guess that the budget for regular testing and preventive maintenance is no more than 3 dollars. And the motivation of the employees to do those things is worth even less.
This post was edited on 6/18/26 at 7:36 pm
Posted by Kcrad
Diamondhead
Member since Nov 2010
68289 posts
Posted on 6/18/26 at 7:48 pm to
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The multi pump allows for cycling the pumps so 1 pump is not always run. You can also use more or less pumps depending on the demand along with varying each pumps speed.
That's sounds way too complicated for the average Latavius to master.
Posted by CP3
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2009
7592 posts
Posted on 6/18/26 at 7:52 pm to
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mchias1


Sounds like we are in the same field.

I wonder what voltage these old pumps run on. I’d assume somewhere in the 4160v range. But I’m not really sure how big they are.


quote:

you ever been in a house when the AC kicks on and the lights dim?


Side note/CSB… I was in the control room at a client site not long ago when they had to throw a 10,000hp 13.8kV compressor across the line to get it started (VFD wasn’t working), and that was a pretty interesting experience. Definitely dimmed the lights
This post was edited on 6/18/26 at 7:54 pm
Posted by Stat M Repairman
Member since Jun 2023
3291 posts
Posted on 6/18/26 at 7:53 pm to

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Why can't S&WB get the pumps to run?

Same reason the firefighting reservoir in LA was dry in time of need.
Posted by Megasaurus
Member since Dec 2017
1664 posts
Posted on 6/18/26 at 9:22 pm to

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Is there anything in New Orleans city government run on a first world level?





Racketeering.
Posted by The Baker
This is fine.
Member since Dec 2011
20727 posts
Posted on 6/18/26 at 9:59 pm to
Some of those screw pumps in mid city are over 100 years old and like 3 people on earth know how to repair them
Posted by PGAOLDBAWNevahBroke
Member since Oct 2025
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Posted on 6/18/26 at 10:04 pm to
13%
Posted by soccerfüt
Location: A Series of Tubes
Member since May 2013
76096 posts
Posted on 6/18/26 at 10:11 pm to
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S&WB spokesperson Ceara Labat
You already knowed.



And the technical expertise of the S&WB is hired with the same agenda.
Posted by thermal9221
Youngsville
Member since Feb 2005
15362 posts
Posted on 6/18/26 at 10:50 pm to
I used to work in a turbomachinery shop.
We got a centrifugal oil pump from swb to overhaul. We’re the oem, the original bom was from the 1920’s. Westinghouse. Every part on that thing was broken.

If an oil pump is in that condition, I’d hate to see the rest of their equipment.
Posted by bluedragon
Birmingham
Member since May 2020
9975 posts
Posted on 6/18/26 at 11:44 pm to
A water Board on the take.

Birmingham did this twice. Simple fix, money bribing contractors go to prison along with the water board members.
Posted by LSUEE2000
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2006
35 posts
Posted on 6/19/26 at 8:49 am to
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mchias, that's a lot of good information but as fightin tigers mentioned, S&WB have some old pumps that actually run on 25 hz power. They have a dedicated 25 hz power grid that runs from their power complex to older pump stations throughout the city. They have/had five 25 hz generators but parts for those are not available so not sure how many are actually operational. Because the old generators are becoming less and less reliable, they've had to build frequency changers to convert standard 60 hz to be used on the 25 hz grid.
They convert the 60 hz power to 24 hz using a motor/alternator machine that has a 10 pole motor powering a 4 pole alternator (720 RPM).

Thought that you and THRILLHO might find that interesting.
Posted by diat150
Louisiana
Member since Jun 2005
48164 posts
Posted on 6/19/26 at 9:02 am to
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mchias, that's a lot of good information but as fightin tigers mentioned, S&WB have some old pumps that actually run on 25 hz power. They have a dedicated 25 hz power grid that runs from their power complex to older pump stations throughout the city. They have/had five 25 hz generators but parts for those are not available so not sure how many are actually operational. Because the old generators are becoming less and less reliable, they've had to build frequency changers to convert standard 60 hz to be used on the 25 hz grid.
They convert the 60 hz power to 24 hz using a motor/alternator machine that has a 10 pole motor powering a 4 pole alternator (720 RPM).

Thought that you and THRILLHO might find that interesting.


I understand that the motors are expensive but it seems like it would have made sense to just swap the motor instead of keeping obsolete equipment in service.
Posted by BestBanker
Member since Nov 2011
19706 posts
Posted on 6/19/26 at 9:02 am to
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A water Board on the take.

This guy gets it.
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