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Posted on 5/23/25 at 8:51 am to Grnbud
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How about the church owned house that the preacher lives in, the car, the plane, the mission trips to the Caribbean? Before you say it’s only the mega churches, I know if a medium sized church in ellic that owns two planes.
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Some of these are definitely taxed benefits

Also, you are out of your mind if you don't think a large portion of company vehicles on the road are being incorrectly taxed.
Posted on 5/23/25 at 8:53 am to geauxpurple
The exact same tax that Cafe du Monde pays.
Posted on 5/23/25 at 8:53 am to Jcorye1
Absolutely.
How many people in this thread have a company car and report all those personal miles?
How many people in this thread have a company car and report all those personal miles?
Posted on 5/23/25 at 8:56 am to N2cars
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How many people in this thread have a company car and report all those personal miles?
Well that’s called fraud, in many cases with churches, it’s just exempt.
As I said, I’m fine with churches being tax exempt, but with many other exemptions and exclusions, the answer to “why” is just because we chose to. There’s really no special logic behind it.
Why are groceries exempt from sales tax? They’re very clearly tangible personal property. Because we choose not to tax them, which is fine, but there’s not some special reason
Posted on 5/23/25 at 9:02 am to N2cars
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Why?
all the benefits that come attatched to the churchfree housing food all the lovely milfs that need counseling in a non taxed church setting
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benefit known as the “parsonage exemption” (or “parish exemption”), “licensed, commissioned, or ordained” ministers of religion may deduct most of the money they spend on housing from their federal income tax, and these properties are often exempt from state property taxes. The exemption has existed since 1921, and no equivalent tax break is available to leaders of secular nonprofit charities. A legal battle has ensued to determine whether the exemption can apply to multiple homes used by a single pastor. In Mar. 2011, a U.S. Tax Court ruled that Phil Driscoll, an ordained minister and Grammy Award–winning trumpeter imprisoned for tax evasion, was exempt from federal income tax on $408,638 used to purchase a second home near Cleveland, TN. The court determined that the word “home” used in the tax code is equivalent to “homes.” "
Posted on 5/23/25 at 9:21 am to Mingo Was His NameO
Agreed.
I was just pointing out some the (likely) hypocrisy going on here.
"Better to be concerned with the log in your own eye before you start talking about the splinter in your neighbor's eye"
I was just pointing out some the (likely) hypocrisy going on here.
"Better to be concerned with the log in your own eye before you start talking about the splinter in your neighbor's eye"
Posted on 5/23/25 at 9:35 am to Armymann50
If you're a pastor with integrity, you'll follow the Billy Graham rule regarding being alone with a woman that isnt your wife. I follow it myself..
That said, being a pastor is hard work. It is a lot more difficult than most people realize and I doubt anyone is doing if for a "free" house.
Of course there will be people that take advantage of a given situation, but id wager most don't.
A lot of good men leave pastoral service because of the difficult, draining, emotional toll it takes, and in general, the low pay.
That said, being a pastor is hard work. It is a lot more difficult than most people realize and I doubt anyone is doing if for a "free" house.
Of course there will be people that take advantage of a given situation, but id wager most don't.
A lot of good men leave pastoral service because of the difficult, draining, emotional toll it takes, and in general, the low pay.
Posted on 5/23/25 at 11:00 am to UFFan
quote:bc of LBJ
Why aren’t churches taxed?
Posted on 5/23/25 at 12:27 pm to UFFan
The perpetuity of this ignorance throughout society should be taxed heavily until its existance has been eradicated...for the sake of all mankind!
Posted on 5/23/25 at 1:20 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
Revenue rom donations (tithing) and the sale of physical assets.
Posted on 5/23/25 at 1:21 pm to MikeAV8s
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I think many non profit and not for profits are tax exempt, no?
What non-profits pay tax?
Posted on 5/23/25 at 1:22 pm to UFFan
To control them. As long as the church doesn’t take an official political position and preach it to their members, it enjoys tax free status.
However, it’s 501C3 is jeopardized if the pastor and/or church body endorses or exercises political views or beliefs in an official capacity. This allows the government to control and censor the church, and how it operates. But they (the government) only enforces their powers of revocation on certain select groups.
However, it’s 501C3 is jeopardized if the pastor and/or church body endorses or exercises political views or beliefs in an official capacity. This allows the government to control and censor the church, and how it operates. But they (the government) only enforces their powers of revocation on certain select groups.
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Posted on 5/23/25 at 1:31 pm to UFFan
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Why aren’t churches taxed?
They do pay taxes.
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I think that churches should be taxed, regardless of whether they preach politics.
Do you believe the same for all 501(c)3's?
Posted on 5/23/25 at 2:20 pm to VaBamaMan
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I know that is the real goal of those who want to tax churches. They know it will kill them.
Many a militant atheist out there
Posted on 5/23/25 at 2:47 pm to Grnbud
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If the oil company provides a permanent residence and pays all the bills for the worker and his family for the entirety of their tenure, yea. They should pay taxes on it. It would be listed as part of the compensation during the hiring of the employee wouldn’t it? You pay taxes on your compensation. If it temporary housing at a job location, housing the worker with other workers instead of his family, then obviously not. Providing a house as part of your compensation package is different than temporary work housing at a job site for the worker only. Your example sucks.
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Parsonage allowances came about during the cold war to help in the fight against Godless commies. Are you saying you're a red?
Posted on 5/23/25 at 2:53 pm to UFFan
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UFFan
quote:Nobody cares what you think.
I think....
Who da fuk do you think you are that deserves an uninformed opinion?

Posted on 5/23/25 at 3:09 pm to DeathValley85
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Many a militant atheist out there
Very few actually, to be "militant" would require violence. We atheists are working to eradicate the scourge of dogmatic theology with intellectual reasoning, however we would consider it a huge win if you quit feeling the need to interject your Gods and religions into our government and public policies. But you just don't seem to be capable of doing that...so we continue to fight for a reality guided society.and the numbers slowly continue to progress in the right direction.

Posted on 5/23/25 at 3:25 pm to UFFan
I feel that non-profits should pay property tax and sales tax as those taxes directly fund the local infrastructure. They put more of a financial burden on public infrastructure than my personal property and usage, yet I have to pay and they don't.
Posted on 5/23/25 at 3:34 pm to UFFan
Friend's Godmother died & left the Church in Rome $36M. Following Sunday Mass, the priest stood at the alter, shaking the plate for donations to feed the poor in the Parish. Last I heard, the Church is the largest property owner in the country.
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