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re: Why are the Toyota Tundra's sales numbers so terrible?

Posted on 3/3/17 at 6:57 am to
Posted by kywildcatfanone
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Posted on 3/3/17 at 6:57 am to
Yes then $45K it is. I did price a nice lariat which would have been about $42K but that would have put me at the price of the Toyota so I didn't want to do that, or I would have bought the Toyota.
Posted by kywildcatfanone
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Posted on 3/3/17 at 6:58 am to
I bought a 2016 February 20th of 2016. Why do you not think you can negotiate on a new truck?
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 3/3/17 at 6:59 am to
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I bought a 2016 February 20th of 2016. Why do you not think you can negotiate on a new truck?


You did not get 31% off a 2016 in early 2016. Post your purchase order.
Posted by lsucoonass
shreveport and east texas
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 3/3/17 at 7:02 am to
When did trucks become luxury vehicles?
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 3/3/17 at 7:07 am to
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When did trucks become luxury vehicles?


At least 2001 when GMC introduced the Sierra C3.
Posted by kywildcatfanone
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Posted on 3/3/17 at 7:12 am to
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When did trucks become luxury vehicles?


Very few people buy trucks for the original purpose of trucks. Most of those are fleet vehicles now. People buy trucks now as a SUV with a bed for the occasional washer/dryer or mulch need.
Posted by mmonro3
New Orleans
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 3/3/17 at 7:18 am to
Probably had a couple thousand miles on it lnchbox. I am glad you called that other idiot out on the math. Now what do you drive? A prius correct? I have a way nicer ride, except for the whole gasoline part.
Posted by RileyTime
Gulf Breeze, FL
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 3/3/17 at 7:32 am to
I dunno, I bought one last month so beats me. And I fricking love my truck
Posted by MWP
Kingwood, TX via Monroe, LA
Member since Jul 2013
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Posted on 3/3/17 at 8:24 am to
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Terrible gas mileage and is a generation behind with engine.




2014 owner checking in. I can't dispute any of this and it also lacks the bells and whistles of the Ford and GMC (frick a Dodge). The only real reason I went Toyota is that I know that I can probably roll 200K on this truck well after it is paid off.
Posted by Tigeralum2008
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Posted on 3/3/17 at 8:59 am to
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Very few people buy trucks for the original purpose of trucks. Most of those are fleet vehicles now. People buy trucks now as a SUV with a bed for the occasional washer/dryer or mulch need.


I do indeed use mine for "truck stuff" 2x's a month but the real reason I buy a truck is because I keep telling myself, "This is the year I buy a boat"

7 years so far and no damn boat
Posted by Sayre
South Bend, Indiana
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 3/3/17 at 10:17 am to
Chevy makes the best powertrains for gas trucks. I've seen too many 5.3s and 6.0s with more than 300k miles on them, running strong, to think otherwise.
Posted by Hammertime
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Posted on 3/3/17 at 10:26 am to
I like them a lot. My main problem is that the steering wheel isn't centered on the driver's seat, it doesn't go low enough, and I can't move the actual seat around enough to get comfortable
Posted by MWP
Kingwood, TX via Monroe, LA
Member since Jul 2013
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Posted on 3/3/17 at 10:32 am to
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I like them a lot.


I was going to buy a Ford and honestly like them better but the reliability of the Toyota was my deciding factor.
Posted by Stexas
SWLA
Member since May 2013
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Posted on 3/3/17 at 11:50 am to
Same here, I really enjoy the ride and comfort features of the ford, but I couldn't get past the resale and reliability. I've owned ford and gmc trucks and they both gave me fits around 100k miles. I've own 2 Camrys that I put over 200k on that just required regular maintenance so I wanted to give the Tundra a shot.
Posted by marinebioman
Ocean Springs, MS
Member since Feb 2005
3396 posts
Posted on 3/3/17 at 11:53 am to
I think their sales are terrible bc people realized that their 30 oz tumblers wont fit in the cup holders without tilting...that has to be it!
Posted by AwesomeSauce
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Member since May 2015
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Posted on 3/3/17 at 11:56 am to
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Chevy makes the best powertrains for gas trucks.


They did, however the new line with AFM is burning 1qt of oil every 2k miles as normal consumption. Thats a quart if it's working correctly before the recommended oil change. Because of that when something is off, which happens with the AFM, more 5.3Ls aren't sniffing 75k before they need internal work than what I would call reliable.

ETA: I had a '03 5.3L that got over 270k that I got with 19 miles on the ODO and had to only change routine wear items and never so much as had to change the valve cover gasket on it, so GMs issue with the 5.3L is very discouraging to me as a pretty big GM loyalist before I started researching the newer powertrains.
This post was edited on 3/3/17 at 11:59 am
Posted by MWP
Kingwood, TX via Monroe, LA
Member since Jul 2013
11225 posts
Posted on 3/3/17 at 12:22 pm to
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I think their sales are terrible bc people realized that their 30 oz tumblers wont fit in the cup holders without tilting...that has to be it!




Yep, I probably would have bought the F150 if I had known this beforehand.
Posted by weagle99
Member since Nov 2011
35893 posts
Posted on 3/3/17 at 12:38 pm to
The 5.3L in the current trucks is a very different engine. I believe oil consumption was fixed.
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
141085 posts
Posted on 3/3/17 at 12:54 pm to
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Yep, I probably would have bought the F150 if I had known this beforehand.


The 30oz tumbler might fit OK, but a standard water or softdrink bottle doesn't sit in the cupholders on a F150, will flop and fall out. I put them in coozies to help them hold in place.
Posted by DCtiger1
Member since Jul 2009
11912 posts
Posted on 3/3/17 at 12:59 pm to
FWIW went I bought my FX4 back in 2014 the sticker was 54k and I paid 43,295 for it. Roughly 20% off.
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