re: Why are the Toyota Tundra's sales numbers so terrible?

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Tundra people are incapable of hearing the slightest criticism of their precious truck though,

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I have a Tundra and agree with this. I like my Tundra but if someone else doesn't that's fine too. It works for what I use it for, and when/if the time comes that it doesn't, I'll just get something else. No big deal, it's just a truck.

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dodge rams out sell them even with the price?

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government purchases

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Tundra guys are having to buy new trucks less often

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That's my story. Got a 2003 model with 165,000 miles on it. Runs like a Timex.

Have a 2012 and I average 16. I'll probably stick with Toyota for the 3rd time in a row when the time comes to replace this one. I used to like ford's but they just have too much problems and are too focused on gas mileage. If I was to switch from the Tundra id take a look at the Sierra/Z71.

In my experience it did not hold up to the test on my farm.
I had a Tundra 4x4 and it did not last a year before I had transmission problems and suspension problems. It maybe a good drive you back and forth to work and play truck. In my experience is horriable as a true heavy duty farm truck. I went back to a Ford 4x4 and haven't had the issues I had with Toyota.
I have been buying Ford's since 1995 and putting 175k to 250k on my Farm trucks. I really haven't had a lot of issues. My present truck 2015 F150 3.5 V6 I have 162,000 miles on it and has never seen the shop except for
Oil changes, transmission oil change, radiator flush, air filter, and changed the spark plugs.

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This guy claims he got a screaming deal on an extended cab truck. There's no way anyone is giving 25% off anything.

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You jut have to work the deal. When I was looking, here is what I saw. I drove a Toyota SR5, the MSRP was about $44K and the best I was able to talk them down to was $41K.
The F150 that I ultimately bought had a sticker of $53,761 and I paid $37,500. I've said this in other threads.

Domestic trucks are keeping their manufacturers afloat. They sell a lot of them, for a huge profit. People are happing getting 5-10K off MSRP and if they are, that is fine. It's all about negotiation. When they make more money from you, I can get a better deal.

The F150 did have a few more features than the Tundra, but I would never buy a truck just for a few feature differences. It's a truck. I also felt that the F150 with the 5.0 was a pretty solid truck that can be reliable if taken care of.

Ahhh... of course LUNCHBOX is here trashing the Tundra, like always.

Disliking the Tundra is like hating ribeye steak, or America, or blowjobs.

And yet here he is.

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25%, I didn't say 25K. Glasses, you need them.

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You're not buying a $60k King Ranch for $45k, let alone less than that

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If you're going to try to be a condescending a-hole, I'd suggesting upping your reading and math skills. $60k-$45k=$15k. $15k=/=$25k, but it most certainly does equal 25% of the MSRP. You aren't buying a new King Ranch at 25%, or $15k, off MSRP. And you're not getting 25% off any trim level.

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The F150 that I ultimately bought had a sticker of $53,761 and I paid $37,500. I've said this in other threads.

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Post your purchase order. I don't believe this for a second. The only way this may have happened is if you bought a leftover 2014 at the end of 2015 when 2016s were hitting the lot.

You either got the single best deal that I've ever seen, and I've been on the F150 forums for over 6 years, or you're full of it. And since you could only get $3k off a Tundra, my money is on the latter.