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re: Why are people so fat now compared to just 30 years ago?
Posted on 9/1/21 at 9:17 pm to PrimeTime Money
Posted on 9/1/21 at 9:17 pm to PrimeTime Money
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There was fast food in 1990. McDonald’s, Pizza Hut, Burger King, etc. Junk food existed. It has to be a cultural change, right? What changed?
When was the last time you saw a bunch of kids playing baseball or football in a vacant lot? Kids (and adults) are doing so today, but on an XBox.
This post was edited on 9/1/21 at 9:21 pm
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Posted on 9/1/21 at 9:18 pm to PrimeTime Money
About five years ago I spent a couple of weeks in Australia. Their diet is roughly the same as ours (hamburgers, etc.), but there were hardly any fat people. They do spend more time outdoors and walked a lot more. The only difference is there food more be less processed?
Posted on 9/1/21 at 9:18 pm to Unobtanium
quote:Look at the modern portion size.
The most common option for a Coca Cola was a 6-1/2 ounce bottle full of cane sugar. After one you'd had enough. Now we've graduated to 64 ounce Big Gulps. Is that really a good thing?
The modern medium was a large back in the day, and a medium is now a small.
You can still see the difference between sizes when comparing Australia to the USA.
I mean, holy shite, our medium is bigger than their large.
We have royally fricked our society, and then add the glorification of obesity itself.
On top of that, 99% of overweight people actually think they are a healthy weight.
Fat dementia is absolutely a real thing.
This post was edited on 9/1/21 at 9:19 pm
Posted on 9/1/21 at 9:18 pm to PrimeTime Money
I was only 10
Posted on 9/1/21 at 9:21 pm to crazy4lsu
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What do you mean processed the same? Fructose is made into F1P by fructokinase, and then is made into 2 molecules of glyceraldehyde-3-P, which can enter glycolysis. Because there is no rate-limiting step, there is an excess of triose metabolites, and fructose potentiates pyruvate kinase, leading to G3P also being being metabolized into pyruvate directly, which can go into multiple pathways. Ethanol is oxidized to acetaldehyde by alcohol dehydrogenase and then that is made into acetate by acetaldehyde dehydrogenase.
Pyruvate can become acetyl-CoA, which can lead to FA synthesis.
If you understand this then you understand that whole post you quoted is a load of bullshite. It's sugar either way, it all gets digested and if you eat too many calories it will get stored as fat.
It's a combination of things.
1) We live in an obesogenic environment. Food is everywhere, calories are cheap, and prepackaged food is literally designed by flavor scientists to get you to eat too much.
2) Technology gives most of us physically easy lives. We sit all day at desks, go home and sit on the couch, eat our calorie dense dinner, go to bed.
3) Portion distortion. Portion sizes are out of control. Restaurants, prepacked foods, etc.
4) Liquid calories, particularly in the south. We love our sweet drinks and our alcohol.
Posted on 9/1/21 at 9:21 pm to roux
eating starchy carbs is ok if you are very physically active. many people eat alot of starchy carbs but are sedentary.
Posted on 9/1/21 at 9:23 pm to Scruffy
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On top of that, 99% of overweight people actually think they are a healthy weight.
Fat dementia is absolutely a real thing.
Yeah it’s bad. Nearly 70% of this country is overweight with a BMI of over 25 and we still have morons who insist they are a healthy weight. Then we have people not realizing the risk they pose to themselves for so many health issues.
Posted on 9/1/21 at 9:23 pm to PrimeTime Money
Welfare and ebt
Posted on 9/1/21 at 9:25 pm to PrimeTime Money
They ate less 30 years ago.
Posted on 9/1/21 at 9:25 pm to PrimeTime Money
Several reasons
Lack of physical activity
Lack of understanding what overweight is
Lack of knowledge on nutrition
Lack of portion control
Frequency of eating out
Large percentage of diet that includes processed foods
All these existed 30 years ago but few people checked all of these boxes, now most do.
Lack of physical activity
Lack of understanding what overweight is
Lack of knowledge on nutrition
Lack of portion control
Frequency of eating out
Large percentage of diet that includes processed foods
All these existed 30 years ago but few people checked all of these boxes, now most do.
Posted on 9/1/21 at 9:25 pm to cssamerican
uber eats here
Posted on 9/1/21 at 9:25 pm to crazy4lsu
Main reason is women went to work and became too tired to come home and cook. Easy to grab “fast” food. Slowly, this became the norm. Not eating home cooked meals enough.
Posted on 9/1/21 at 9:27 pm to Feelthebarn
quote:Not even remotely the biggest issue.
Welfare and ebt
People are fat and lazy, yet refuse to even recognize that they are fat.
The “dad bod” is simply an “overweight bod” by a lazy person.
Scruffy refuses to ever have a “dad bod”.
This post was edited on 9/1/21 at 9:29 pm
Posted on 9/1/21 at 9:28 pm to Scruffy
less mom's cooking good home cooked meals.
Posted on 9/1/21 at 9:29 pm to PrimeTime Money
Replacing natural fats with sugar started in early 90s
Fat isn’t bad for you. Sugar is. Everything is loaded with sugar now
Fat isn’t bad for you. Sugar is. Everything is loaded with sugar now
Posted on 9/1/21 at 9:29 pm to PrimeTime Money
30 years ago, I was in high school... fit and trim, chasing trim! lol
If I had to say why, exactly, I would say... the Internet.
If I had to say why, exactly, I would say... the Internet.
Posted on 9/1/21 at 9:37 pm to Hulkklogan
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If you understand this then you understand that whole post you quoted is a load of bullshite. It's sugar either way, it all gets digested and if you eat too many calories it will get stored as fat.
What? I was confused because he said they were processed the same, which I took to mean they shared metabolites. I mean, given the amount of pathways in which pyruvate is an intermediate, then nearly every exogenous metabolite could possibly be regarded as being ‘processed’ the same.
There is a meaningful difference in the nutritional content of food, and thus processing will be different. Because processing will be different, nutrition shouldn’t be regarded as purely thermodynamic, because regardless, because the body wants both homeostasis as well as conservation of energy. That people can admit that there is an excess of food designed and sold without regard for nutritional content, that should convince people regulation is needed. Instead, people will continually insist that nutrition is always a matter of individual choice, which is an insane way of thinking about it. There are meaningful biochemical processes at play. It’s not different all that different from addiction, in which there are physiologic changes, except the purview is hormonal and biochemical rather than neurological.
Posted on 9/1/21 at 9:38 pm to tigerjjs
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Main reason is women went to work and became too tired to come home and cook. Easy to grab “fast” food. Slowly, this became the norm. Not eating home cooked meals enough.
Women have been part of the workforce for a long time. Why are we seeing the effects only recently?
Posted on 9/1/21 at 9:40 pm to PrimeTime Money
Saw a group of 4 people, 3 women and a young boy coming out of the race track tonight. No doubt all 4 were over 250 and all with the same shape. That poor kid couldnt have been more than 12-13 and will likely be a slave to his stomach the rest of his life.
Posted on 9/1/21 at 9:41 pm to PrimeTime Money
Corn
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