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re: Why are lawyers the worst to pay? What can be done?

Posted on 6/3/18 at 12:03 pm to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
481186 posts
Posted on 6/3/18 at 12:03 pm to
my only incident with ODC involved an unpaid bill that was just a miscommunication b/c my name was on it but it was for the previous firm, so they'd send the bill there and it didn't get to me and they didn't contact me directly at my new place etc etc etc (just a bunch of mistakes). obviously it was paid and i didn't get in trouble but yeah you 100% can get in serious shite for not paying bills
Posted by jbgleason
Bailed out of BTR to God's Country
Member since Mar 2012
20405 posts
Posted on 6/3/18 at 12:05 pm to
Let me let let you in on a little secret. The absolute worst people with money I have ever met are all lawyers. Guys driving exotic cars, big houses, having fancy parties and then I find out they have $200 in the bank and live check to check. They have cash flow but just spend it as it comes in.

You have to make them want to pay you more than the next guy. But the frick out of them until they decide they would rather pay you off this month than the other guys in their stack of bills.
Posted by Doctor Strangelove
Member since Feb 2018
3507 posts
Posted on 6/3/18 at 12:07 pm to
I have some space for lease in a commercial building and recently two different attorneys agreed in principle to lease but backed out when we asked them to fill out an application which included a credit check.
Posted by LSUTigersVCURams
Member since Jul 2014
21940 posts
Posted on 6/3/18 at 12:11 pm to
This is not typical. You hired a non-legit lawyer who can't pay his bills.
Posted by DivotBreath
On the course
Member since Oct 2007
3735 posts
Posted on 6/3/18 at 12:12 pm to
Doctors and lawyers are the worst about repaying bank loans as well. They think the potential to make big money earns them to pay back whenever they want. And yes, they use fear as a tool. Either fear that they will drag things out or fear that they will bad-mouth your business.
Posted by GeeOH
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2013
13376 posts
Posted on 6/3/18 at 12:14 pm to
quote:

imagine it would be very expensive and painful to sue a law firm, and they know it. Any suggestions?



How much? It is NOT expensive to sue a law practice. And the last thing they want is to be in front of a judge they practice under, with an embarrassing case against them.
Plus, if you sue them and they are in the wrong, you get legal fees as well...ms. if they string it out, those fees, and possible other damages mount up against them.

They'll settle the day they are served
Posted by Arkapigdiesel
Faulkner County
Member since Jun 2009
15771 posts
Posted on 6/3/18 at 12:18 pm to
quote:

I've got a small business and normally people pay me for services; no problem.

However, a law firm who is not paying me; quite a bit of money; but promised they would start monthly payments to show good faith, is stiffing me. All my other customers just pay the lump sum they owe. But, it's now a year and they aren't paying - anything.

I imagine it would be very expensive and painful to sue a law firm, and they know it. Any suggestions?


Back up about 250 yards with a 5.56 and split his head open like a canoe. I really hate piece of shite people. I really can't offer you any legitimate suggestions to your situation, but just felt the need to throw that out there.

For the record, I wouldn't take my advice.
Posted by broadhead
Member since Oct 2014
2602 posts
Posted on 6/3/18 at 12:20 pm to
have your lawyer send a letter stating if the bill isn't paid in full in 30 days they will be sued and will be responsible for court costs and legal fees. Also go ahead and turn them into the bar. You'll be paid with the quickness.
Posted by gizmoflak
Member since May 2007
11866 posts
Posted on 6/3/18 at 12:21 pm to
The answer to your dilemma is to threaten to file a bar complaint.

Nothing springs attorneys into action faster than the possibility of having to deal with disciplinary hearings and fines.
Posted by Barneyrb
NELA
Member since May 2016
7419 posts
Posted on 6/3/18 at 12:26 pm to
Small claims court, the atty really doesn't want to go in front of a judge for an unpaid bill.

When they are served the papers you will get a phone call and the best part is you don't have to hire another atty and you get to charge interest on the unpaid debt.

I've done this before and the atty wanted to "work something out" for payment terms, I told him the terms were our court date was x-xx-xxxx and anything less than full payment before that date and I would see him there. He paid in full beforehand.
Posted by airfernando
Member since Oct 2015
15248 posts
Posted on 6/3/18 at 12:41 pm to
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Start adding late fees to the bill and see how quick they pay it.
that will be like screaming you don't have a clue. Late fees wouldn't mean anything if you take them to court. To get a settlement from court for interest you would need a prior agreement to those terms. The problem with that advice is you're only trying to scare them, and they know it is meaningless.

Your only options are get a lawyer or nag and harass them on your own (or eat the loss). You should unfortunately get a lawyer and have the lawyer send a letter to them, probably including they will be sued for what they owe plus attorney fees.

Posted by TBoy
Kalamazoo
Member since Dec 2007
29129 posts
Posted on 6/3/18 at 12:48 pm to
Report them to their bar association.
Posted by 632627
LA
Member since Dec 2011
15405 posts
Posted on 6/3/18 at 1:27 pm to
quote:

The answer to your dilemma is to threaten to file a bar complaint.


If I’m not mistaken, this could be extortion.

I think you just need to file a bar complaint, and not use it as leverage.

You can send a demand letter stating a lawsuit will follow if the bill isn’t paid.
Posted by tiger114
Fairhope, AL
Member since Sep 2009
5236 posts
Posted on 6/3/18 at 1:30 pm to
quote:

Lawyers will avoid paying as long as they possibly can

And 90% of them live beyond their means, so they probably really don’t have the money.
Posted by ellesssuuu
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2016
3192 posts
Posted on 6/3/18 at 1:42 pm to
Blow their building up
Posted by ninthward
Boston, MA
Member since May 2007
23132 posts
Posted on 6/3/18 at 2:12 pm to
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Profit??
Very true that profit is in question should you choose to settle for services rendered.
Posted by holdem Tiger
Member since Oct 2007
1295 posts
Posted on 6/3/18 at 2:50 pm to
Don't ask for legal advice from non lawyers. Lots of terrible advice and plain wrong info in here
Posted by MMauler
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Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 6/3/18 at 2:53 pm to
Report them to the bar association.
Posted by starsandstripes
Georgia
Member since Nov 2017
11897 posts
Posted on 6/3/18 at 2:55 pm to
1. Bar complaint - immediately
2. Find another law firm - go scorched earth and invoke every fee, interest, and other punitive measure allowed by law - do not settle - file suit and tell the new firm you want legal costs covered - take it to the max allowed by law - make it fricking painful for them.
3. Hunt them like an animal.
4. Tell future clients that are attorneys or law firms you need payment up front and then when they ask why, give them the name of this current firm.
5. Go to avvo or other online site where you can rate attorneys and offices. Go scorched earth.
6. Some things should be personal. They are being dickbags and affecting your income, which affects your family. Hunt them like an animal.
Posted by TBoy
Kalamazoo
Member since Dec 2007
29129 posts
Posted on 6/3/18 at 2:57 pm to
If your relationship with the firm can be fairly characterized as an open account, sue for the amount plus attorney fees. Then seize their computers.
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