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re: Who's the most famous person in world history who's not a religious figure?

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Posted by SpqrTiger
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Posted on 5/2/17 at 9:39 am to
The most famous American is probably George Washington and/or Abraham Lincoln. I leave out our current and recent presidents because anyone who knows them also knows who Washington and Lincoln are (most likely).

In addition to the ones you mentioned, Napoleon deserves to be in the conversation, as well as Mao Zedong.

Posted by Pettifogger
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Posted on 5/2/17 at 9:39 am to
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Pele or Mohammed Ali



Good ones

Messi and Ronaldo too, considering population and media growth
Posted by TigerstuckinMS
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Posted on 5/2/17 at 9:39 am to
Genghis Khan
Alexander the Great
Napoleon Bonaparte
Joseph Stalin
Charlemagne
Leonardo
Gandhi
Einstein
Newton
Galileo
This post was edited on 5/2/17 at 9:41 am
Posted by SG_Geaux
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Posted on 5/2/17 at 9:39 am to
Michael Jordan
Posted by Tiger1242
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Posted on 5/2/17 at 9:40 am to
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MLK

How famous is he outside of the U.S.?

Nelson Mandela is probably more famous worldwide for similar things
Posted by oleyeller
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Posted on 5/2/17 at 9:41 am to
The michaels


Jackson, jordan
Posted by DrunkerThanThou
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Posted on 5/2/17 at 9:41 am to
Hitler or Genghis Kahn
Posted by Box Geauxrilla
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The older they are, the more generations of people who have known them.
Posted by TheCaterpillar
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Posted on 5/2/17 at 9:41 am to
Sadly, it would probably be someone in the last 10-15 years that is at their peak of stardom because of technology.

Doubt African tribesmen know who Julius Caesar is, but I bet they know who Barack Obama is. Not that he's the most famous.

It might seriously be Michael Jordan. Or Messi/Ronaldo.
Posted by blowmeauburn
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Posted on 5/2/17 at 9:42 am to
Hmmm by world history I'm assuming you mean as many people as have ever lived on this planet? So in that spirit it would likely need to be somebody from ancient or near ancient times in order to cover most of the generations.

I'm going to say, Alexander the Great or Aristotle or Plato or Julius Caesar
Posted by TheCaterpillar
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Posted on 5/2/17 at 9:42 am to
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The older they are, the more generations of people who have known them.



Dead people knowing someone doesn't really count.

Fame is how many people, if polled today, know who a person is.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
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Posted on 5/2/17 at 9:42 am to
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Abraham Lincoln


When thinking about this you have to remember Europe and Asia. How familiar are they with Lincoln or MLK or other Americans? I'm not sure, but I'm guessing taking a world view Caesar or Gandhi would be more famous worldwide
Posted by prplhze2000
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Posted on 5/2/17 at 9:43 am to
Napoleon or hitler.
Posted by hojo
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Posted on 5/2/17 at 9:44 am to
Billy Shakespeare
Posted by Pettifogger
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Posted on 5/2/17 at 9:44 am to
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How famous is he outside of the U.S.?

Nelson Mandela is probably more famous worldwide for similar things


Mandela is a good one but I'd wager a lot of money that more people are familiar with MLK than other famous Americans, including founders.

MLK is highly quotable and the concept of America's treatment of blacks (and resulting civil rights movement) gets tons of play because it is a human rights black eye for the world's biggest human rights crusader.
Posted by Pettifogger
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Posted on 5/2/17 at 9:46 am to
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When thinking about this you have to remember Europe and Asia. How familiar are they with Lincoln or MLK or other Americans? I'm not sure, but I'm guessing taking a world view Caesar or Gandhi would be more famous worldwide



I think Lincoln, Washington, etc. would probably have less name recognition than Obama, TBH.

Posted by AbuTheMonkey
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Posted on 5/2/17 at 9:46 am to
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When thinking about this you have to remember Europe and Asia. How familiar are they with Lincoln or MLK or other Americans? I'm not sure, but I'm guessing taking a world view Caesar or Gandhi would be more famous worldwide


Lincoln and Washington are awfully famous all over the world. As of now, they are the two Americans who probably transcend Americana and are truly global figures.

Think of all the American products, place names, and so forth that have "Washington" or "Lincoln" in the title. The "Haitian/Ugandan/Turkish/Iranian/Korean/etc/etc George Washington" is a real phenomenon.
Posted by MorbidTheClown
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Posted on 5/2/17 at 9:47 am to
Alton Sterling
Posted by JetFuelTyga
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Posted on 5/2/17 at 9:50 am to
Little sleeper- but Kobe Bryant. It is absolutely absurd how popular he (even still) is in China and other Asian countries. When I was there in 2014 it seemed like every fifth person was rocking a Kobe shirt or jersey
Posted by Tiger1242
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Posted on 5/2/17 at 9:51 am to
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Mandela is a good one but I'd wager a lot of money that more people are familiar with MLK than other famous Americans, including founders.

I agree with MLK probably being more famous worldwide thank most other Americans.

But I still think Mandela is probably more famous, you do know he's not American right?
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