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re: Who had the right of way? The boat or the plane?
Posted on 6/10/24 at 6:47 pm to real turf fan
Posted on 6/10/24 at 6:47 pm to real turf fan
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What were the relative speeds at the time of collision? The plane almost had to be going faster, how many seconds was the plane in the line of sight of the boat?
Negligible arguement... which craft is more maneuverable?? The plane or the boat??... the answer is the boat. Speed is only one factor in maneuverability... the boat is more agile and more maneuverable... the boat crossed the path of the plane
Examine the extreme version.. who is at fault? The jet ski or the ocean liner? While that is the extreme version of the exact same question, it also points to the exact same conditions presented here... this is 100% boats fault
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Posted on 6/10/24 at 6:50 pm to Robin Masters
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That is one wet Beaver!
Possibly more depending on sexuality of passengers.
Posted on 6/10/24 at 6:51 pm to TigerintheNO
The plane. It took off in an established seaplane runway if you will. The boater fricked up and got charged with a BWI
This post was edited on 6/10/24 at 6:53 pm
Posted on 6/10/24 at 6:56 pm to LSUBFA83
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I see that TV station believes in employing the fatties.
It’s Canada, but…….more and more US TV stations seem to be trending in the same direction.
Posted on 6/10/24 at 6:59 pm to Boudreauboudreaugoly
In the pecking order of boats a sea plane has the least priority. Seems like arse backwards logic, but that’s what I was taught while I was in captains school to get my 6 pack license.
This post was edited on 6/10/24 at 7:01 pm
Posted on 6/10/24 at 7:00 pm to crazyLSUstudent
What boaters know about seaplane landing strips?
I have a boat, and a seaplane license. I’m on both sides of this one. It looks like the boat was hit from behind. He probably never saw the plane and I’m sure he didn’t have a sectional that showed him where the seaplanes operate.
When I am operating on the water in my amphib, my rule is that my toy costs more, therefore if there is a chance of collision, I wait until there isn’t a chance. A pilot operating something like a beaver (the holy grail of seaplanes) should have taken better care. Not saying that as a legal stance, but as the current owner of such a plane, he owes it to those before and those that would have come after to be a better steward of that magnificent airplane.
I have a boat, and a seaplane license. I’m on both sides of this one. It looks like the boat was hit from behind. He probably never saw the plane and I’m sure he didn’t have a sectional that showed him where the seaplanes operate.
When I am operating on the water in my amphib, my rule is that my toy costs more, therefore if there is a chance of collision, I wait until there isn’t a chance. A pilot operating something like a beaver (the holy grail of seaplanes) should have taken better care. Not saying that as a legal stance, but as the current owner of such a plane, he owes it to those before and those that would have come after to be a better steward of that magnificent airplane.
Posted on 6/10/24 at 7:05 pm to TigerintheNO
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Who had the right of way
Gordon's Lear jet rolling in hot on YVR
Posted on 6/10/24 at 7:11 pm to TigerintheNO
Whomever was on the other’s right.
Posted on 6/10/24 at 7:23 pm to TigerintheNO
Posted on 6/10/24 at 8:05 pm to TigerintheNO
Typically areas for those types of planes are marked by buoys for landing/takeoff so I’ll assume plane had right of way
Posted on 6/10/24 at 8:19 pm to deltaland
Frankly they both look guilty here. I don’t see how you allow that to happen with the video in the OP as there’s plenty of vis, the boats going a relatively slow speed it’s not like it shot in out of nowhere to the point the boat should have seen the plane and the plane should have seen the boat.
ETA: so watching the video again it looks like the boat was heading toward the sea plane initially at a mostly parallel course, then likely veered off into the path of the sea plane for quite some time before the collision occurs.
ETA: so watching the video again it looks like the boat was heading toward the sea plane initially at a mostly parallel course, then likely veered off into the path of the sea plane for quite some time before the collision occurs.
This post was edited on 6/10/24 at 8:22 pm
Posted on 6/10/24 at 8:21 pm to TigerintheNO
Right of way or not, I’m just gonna get out of the way of the plane and let it take off.
Sometimes, people’s egos get them in bad situations. Be mad but not hurt. Just get out of the way of the plane and then go about your business
Sometimes, people’s egos get them in bad situations. Be mad but not hurt. Just get out of the way of the plane and then go about your business
Posted on 6/10/24 at 8:33 pm to TigerintheNO
Posted on 6/11/24 at 5:55 am to latech15
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I’m sure he didn’t have a sectional that showed him where the seaplanes operate.
You don’t have to have the aeronautical sectional to know that info. The seaplane ops area is also noted in the Vancouver Harbor marine navigation charts.
Boater didn’t do his research.
Posted on 6/11/24 at 5:59 am to baldona
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I don’t see how you allow that to happen with the video in the OP as there’s plenty of vis,
With the pilot sitting left seat (if it was SRM) would’ve been unable to see the boat crossing right to left.
Those seaplanes tend to nose up when on takeoff roll due to the drag created by the floats in the water. Once it gets enough speed, and the floats get on top of the water, the nose will naturally lower.
Think of a boat accelerating quickly in the water. Same concept.
Posted on 6/11/24 at 6:12 am to 0x15E
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Plus, the boat was in restricted waters due to seaplane activity.
This is the part I was going to mention.
If the plane or the boat wasn't supposed to be in the area to start with, then I would assume the other that could be in the area would have the right of way.
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