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re: What’s more important? Quality of parents or quality of school?
Posted on 6/4/18 at 10:27 am to Lsuhack1
Posted on 6/4/18 at 10:27 am to Lsuhack1
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during the school year a kid will spend about 50% of there time awake at school and far less than that with there parents. How can you say 90-10?
my work day,
drop kid off at 7:00 kid stays at school till 3 after care till 5:15 when either his mother or I rush to get him after work. He is in bed for 9. So during a normal day he spends 1 hour in the morning getting ready with us, and 3.5 hours at night. School spends much more time with him.
Weekends, Holidays, Summers. Kids need to be learning and exploring far more than just in the school year which is what good parents do. They put their kids in camps and programs and sports that give their kids the extra motivation and drive to learn. And that compounds like interest over time.
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Posted on 6/4/18 at 10:30 am to Tyga Woods
Parenting is the most important role in the world. Greater than teachers, presidents, everything. If you take a bunch of single patented kids and put them together in a school, that school will have problems based on the law of averages. Some single parents do a good job but the majority will struggle and the lack of fathers will be apparent. I don’t want my kids being influenced by kids who didn’t have good parenting therefore I choose the school they go to rather than allow my address dictate it.
Posted on 6/4/18 at 10:32 am to whoisnickdoobs
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Is the reason you overcame going to a shitty school because you had good parents?
Nah, I did the minimum at school, didn't do homework for at least 6 years and never studied for a single test. WHen I got to college I hung out with the right group of people and buckled down. My parents use to do everything to try to get me to apply myself in highshcool so I could have got more scholarships, got into a better university, but all i was worried about was hanging out with my friends and partying on weekends.
Posted on 6/4/18 at 10:50 am to Tyga Woods
Depends on the kid too. Even parents and school can't make a kid into an automatic success.
This post was edited on 6/4/18 at 10:51 am
Posted on 6/4/18 at 10:57 am to Tyga Woods
Good students make schools goodt, not buildings, books, air conditioning, free meals, etc.
Good students come from good parents
Therefore good parents make good schools,
It is not an either or choice except when the government intervenes to frick up the schools.
Good students come from good parents
Therefore good parents make good schools,
It is not an either or choice except when the government intervenes to frick up the schools.
Posted on 6/4/18 at 11:20 am to Tyga Woods
I've worked in some of the worst schools as well as the best school in the state. The common denominator of the brightest and most thoughtful students was a parent who gave a damn.
Posted on 6/4/18 at 11:22 am to Tyga Woods
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It’s my opinion that if a kid has a quality parent(s) at home, he or she will succeed no matter how shitty a school may be. Conversely, a kid with terrible parents will fail in even the best school.
Am I wrong?
both are important. if you want to be so reliant upon the parents and have a shitty school, there's zero point in even sending the kid to a school that will only have a negative impact on their life.
Posted on 6/4/18 at 11:38 am to Lsuhack1
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during the school year a kid will spend about 50% of there time awake at school and far less than that with there parents. How can you say 90-10?
my work day,
drop kid off at 7:00 kid stays at school till 3 after care till 5:15 when either his mother or I rush to get him after work. He is in bed for 9. So during a normal day he spends 1 hour in the morning getting ready with us, and 3.5 hours at night. School spends much more time with him.
You are modelling your kids to be mid level managers with few to zero leadership skills. Might pull a good salary, but make a difference? Not a chance.
To say schools and peer influences are unimportant is a mistake, but parents (or parent figures in their absence) are 100% the factor that usually determines real success in life. And I'm using a definition of success that does not only include salary or a "good job."
Children need leadership and guidance. That comes not through peers and not through classrooms, but through example. This is most effective through parents. Some kids with shitty parents manage to make it if they have a good coach or find some other long term parental figure. Far less likely, though, and will still have mental/emotional issues as a result of their parents' failure.
Posted on 6/4/18 at 11:44 am to Tyga Woods
Home Schooling is the proof that Parents > School.
It really IS that simple.
It really IS that simple.
Posted on 6/4/18 at 11:52 am to Tyga Woods
Agree. Parents are the most important.
Posted on 6/4/18 at 11:55 am to Tyga Woods
Parents
Posted on 6/4/18 at 11:59 am to Tyga Woods
Parents.
Kids can still create their own opportunities at a poor quality school, if they have parents who are guiding them in the right direction.
Kids can still create their own opportunities at a poor quality school, if they have parents who are guiding them in the right direction.
Posted on 6/4/18 at 12:17 pm to Tyga Woods
Parents are more important.
But this isn't true either. Parents can't do it all on their own. There has to be opportunity. A school that doesn't teach doesn't give opportunity.
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he or she will succeed no matter how shitty a school may be.
But this isn't true either. Parents can't do it all on their own. There has to be opportunity. A school that doesn't teach doesn't give opportunity.
Posted on 6/4/18 at 12:23 pm to Tyga Woods
It’s a mix of a lot of things but the single biggest thing has to be parents.
You can have a great school but if the kids don’t do the work and don’t have their parents pushing them, they will slack as much as they can.
Leaning on the below average kid to bust their arse rather than accept “everyone passes here” or the above average kid not to slack in classes they hate makes a big difference.
It’s work ethic as much as anything and that is as important or more than what you learn. Busting your arse and putting in effort opens doors for you, especially in an era where people whine about lazy kids.
You can have a great school but if the kids don’t do the work and don’t have their parents pushing them, they will slack as much as they can.
Leaning on the below average kid to bust their arse rather than accept “everyone passes here” or the above average kid not to slack in classes they hate makes a big difference.
It’s work ethic as much as anything and that is as important or more than what you learn. Busting your arse and putting in effort opens doors for you, especially in an era where people whine about lazy kids.
Posted on 6/4/18 at 12:46 pm to Tyga Woods
No parent can make up for certain level of school peers.
If school not horror, parent tips scale.
If school great, and parent mediocre school tips scale.
Bad enough parent, no school matters.
If school not horror, parent tips scale.
If school great, and parent mediocre school tips scale.
Bad enough parent, no school matters.
Posted on 6/4/18 at 12:48 pm to Tyga Woods
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Am I wrong?
I'd say you are not wrong.While good teachers can help, short of having purely independent children, without much family help and support, they won't amount to much, regardless of the school itself.
I knew some kids growing up that could have gone to private school but for whatever reason went to public school and most of the time the school itself was crap. However, they were smart and had a strong, positive family support system and they are now completing their residencies as doctors.
Posted on 6/4/18 at 12:49 pm to Epic Cajun
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say that parents are more important, but I also think that quality parents will try their best not to send their kid to a shitty school anyway.
This.
Parents know when it’s time to GTFO of a district or zoning for a shite individual school.
Posted on 6/4/18 at 12:54 pm to LSU alum wannabe
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say that parents are more important, but I also think that quality parents will try their best not to send their kid to a shitty school anyway.
This.
Parents know when it’s time to GTFO of a district or zoning for a shite individual school.
I don't think that is the point of the thread. The point is would a kid with quality parents succeed in a terrible school? Not would quality parents remove a kid from a terrible school and put him/her in a good one.
Posted on 6/4/18 at 12:57 pm to Tyga Woods
This answer should be aParent
Posted on 6/4/18 at 1:01 pm to LSU alum wannabe
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This.
Parents know when it’s time to GTFO of a district or zoning for a shite individual school.
seems like OP is trying to find a means to justify being a cheap arse bitch.
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