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re: What is this Anti-Work movement?
Posted on 9/26/22 at 10:23 am to Broke
Posted on 9/26/22 at 10:23 am to Broke
quote:quote:This is the entire fast food industries MO
If you have low turnover and no problem finding replacements when people leave, you’re probably fine. If you have high turnover and/or “staffing issues”, you should probably re-examine your MO.
And they are having hard times staffing right now, or have you not noticed?
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Posted on 9/26/22 at 10:23 am to DCtiger1
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Maybe people’s worth and value is greatly overestimated.
Maybe not if you are having a problem finding and keeping employees.
Posted on 9/26/22 at 10:24 am to Broke
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This is the entire fast food industries MO
Haha ah…
Your entire business model is to abuse your employees until they quit, and then being in more people desperate enough to put up with your abuse for a while before leaving.
No wonder rumblings from the labor face make you so fricking uncomfy
Posted on 9/26/22 at 10:25 am to Displaced
I am not having trouble, but the idea that these fortune 50 companies don’t adequately compensate their employees across the board is absurd.
People think they deserve more than they do.
People think they deserve more than they do.
Posted on 9/26/22 at 10:26 am to Joshjrn
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Your entire business model is to abuse your employees until they quit, and then being in more people desperate enough to put up with your abuse for a while before leaving.
That seems to be their model yes
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No wonder rumblings from the labor face make you so fricking uncomfy
Once again, I'm not uncomfortable. I found the anti-work movement very strange
Posted on 9/26/22 at 10:27 am to LNCHBOX
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And they are having hard times staffing right now, or have you not noticed?
They have had these issues for the last 20 years....It's not new to their industry.
Posted on 9/26/22 at 10:28 am to Broke
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And quiet quitting??? Who thought it's a great idea to do the absolute minimum to get by?
Many large employers pay the absolute minimum to get by …. It’s a two way street. As the old saying goes….you get what you pay for.
Posted on 9/26/22 at 10:28 am to DCtiger1
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People think they deserve more than they do.
People deserve whatever they can get. We proved that when the banks fricked us all 15 years ago and their execs still made millions to walk away. But now it's entitlement because younger people want more money?
Posted on 9/26/22 at 10:28 am to Upperdecker
I think there is a prime moment for anti-capitalism right now, or at least anti-corrupted capitalism.
The issue I see is that so many of these Anti-Work reddit types don't have any redeeming messaging to accompany their tirade against work/the man/corporate slavehood, etc.
The same people are against marriage, against traditional families, against stronger small autonomous communities. I'm supposed to think it's a human rights issue that single childless malcontents aren't being fulfilled by modern work?
The issue I see is that so many of these Anti-Work reddit types don't have any redeeming messaging to accompany their tirade against work/the man/corporate slavehood, etc.
The same people are against marriage, against traditional families, against stronger small autonomous communities. I'm supposed to think it's a human rights issue that single childless malcontents aren't being fulfilled by modern work?
Posted on 9/26/22 at 10:28 am to DCtiger1
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People think they deserve more than they do.
if they can get more, why shouldn't they?
Posted on 9/26/22 at 10:29 am to Broke
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They have had these issues for the last 20 years....It's not new to their industry.
You can't be serious right now.
Posted on 9/26/22 at 10:31 am to Salmon
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if they can get more, why shouldn't they?
My entire point. Sure they may be able to get more. But can they keep it when the next hungry employee comes around. I'm saying that doing the absolute minimum 100% of the time is going to bite you when the labor market rights itself.
Posted on 9/26/22 at 10:31 am to Salmon
Because the market doesn’t support the pay they desire, and instead of developing skills, designations and certifications, pursuing advancement or a better job elsewhere they simply demand more base pay in their current role for the same job.
Posted on 9/26/22 at 10:32 am to Broke
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They have had these issues for the last 20 years....It's not new to their industry.
Well this is a new level of dumb.
I too remember when Wendy's wasn't sure if it would open that day or not 20 years ago.
Posted on 9/26/22 at 10:32 am to Broke
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when the labor market rights itself.
Who says the "old" way is the "right" way?
Posted on 9/26/22 at 10:32 am to Broke
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You don't have any leverage though. The company is mine. It belongs to me.
you can’t be serious. Workers hold leverage all the time throughout the world. You need workers to make money for you. You have authority, you don’t always have leverage.
Posted on 9/26/22 at 10:33 am to DCtiger1
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Because the market doesn’t support the pay they desire
what if it does?
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they simply demand more base pay in their current role for the same job.
then they either get it or move on
what's the problem?
Posted on 9/26/22 at 10:34 am to Broke
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I'm saying that doing the absolute minimum 100% of the time is going to bite you when the labor market rights itself.
How do you define minimum here? Are all job requirements being met in a timely manner?
Posted on 9/26/22 at 10:35 am to DCtiger1
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Giving a salary, benefits including health care, retirement and PTO is doing the absolute minimum?
Yes, these are pretty standard for most jobs these days. Now throw in how many companies are foregoing cost of living raises and changing healthcare plans that cost the employee more while getting the same care or less care and they're actually earning less each year. Meanwhile the upper management ranks grow and the executive level folks never forego bonuses and pay increases.
You have a very myopic view of this. Have you worked for a large company in the last 20 years?
Posted on 9/26/22 at 10:36 am to The Pirate King
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Workers hold leverage all the time throughout the world. You need workers to make money for you.
Meh, not really. Everyone is replaceable. The machine will keep moving no matter how many people demand higher pay or go on strike. At best workers could cause a minor hiccup.
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