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re: What is this Anti-Work movement?

Posted on 9/26/22 at 10:15 am to
Posted by Broke
AKA Buttercup
Member since Sep 2006
65050 posts
Posted on 9/26/22 at 10:15 am to
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To be lazy to the point of getting fired by some a-hole that fires his own kid for doing exactly what she was taught?

Great lesson, champ.



She will remember this lesson. Thinking I would teach my kid to be lazy is just a foolish notion. Why would anyone do that? It's like teaching your kid to be a gang member
Posted by statman34
Member since Feb 2011
2964 posts
Posted on 9/26/22 at 10:16 am to
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Not anti-work at all but I also don’t get in line to sniff CEO jockstraps like a lot here


It's less about siding with CEOs and companies and more about being realistic about at will employment. Of course the company doesn't care about you...never have. And of course you don't care about the company, never have either.

The deal is on Reddit, they don't live in reality because they either don't have jobs yet or they live with their parents. They want a utopia which has never existed and won't and they don't even understand how jobs work or how a company exists in the first place. It's how this whole McDonald's need to pay a living wage garbage started too.
Posted by Displaced
Member since Dec 2011
32719 posts
Posted on 9/26/22 at 10:16 am to
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I don't know who ya'll work for but again, I own this place and if I want to rub one out at my desk I can.

That's one way to lose your fortune in a sexual harassment suit.
Posted by Odysseus32
Member since Dec 2009
7343 posts
Posted on 9/26/22 at 10:16 am to
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You don't have any leverage though. The company is mine. It belongs to me.


I think you don't understand leverage.

It seems like you have leverage when there's a workforce desperate for any sort of work.

Companies that have actual leverage are companies like Nike, Disney, Exxon, Sports Franchises, Big Law Firms, where even highly paid executives will jump ship for a brand.

Mike's frick All Lathe and Plaster has no leverage.

If you're the only employer in town, but I don't care if I work or not because I have confidence that I'm smarter than you, you have no leverage.
Posted by Broke
AKA Buttercup
Member since Sep 2006
65050 posts
Posted on 9/26/22 at 10:16 am to
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The leverage they have is that they can leave. When they ask for more money and leave when it’s not provided, do you whine about their lack of “loyalty”?


No I go hire their replacements
Posted by LNCHBOX
70448
Member since Jun 2009
84306 posts
Posted on 9/26/22 at 10:16 am to
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Thinking I would teach my kid to be lazy is just a foolish notion.


You're the one that said she learned exactly what you taught her.
Posted by LNCHBOX
70448
Member since Jun 2009
84306 posts
Posted on 9/26/22 at 10:17 am to
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No I go hire their replacements



Who then leave too because their CEO is a doofus.
Posted by Asharad
Tiamat
Member since Dec 2010
5721 posts
Posted on 9/26/22 at 10:17 am to
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When did this shite start happening?
UBI has been their goal for a while now
Posted by Roll Tide Ravens
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2015
42946 posts
Posted on 9/26/22 at 10:18 am to
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Where the actual frick do these people think money will come from? The magic money fairy?

The rich will pay more taxes and then the government will provide a universal basic income. The fact that the businesses owned by the rich will no longer have workers is of no concern.
Posted by wadewilson
Member since Sep 2009
36636 posts
Posted on 9/26/22 at 10:18 am to
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You don't have any leverage though. The company is mine. It belongs to me.


If you can't keep or attract employees at the pay you're offering, then you do not have leverage. You have a failing business model.

Good luck.
Posted by Salmon
On the trails
Member since Feb 2008
83630 posts
Posted on 9/26/22 at 10:18 am to
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No I go hire their replacements


a lot of businesses are struggling with this right now

or if they do, turnover is extremely high
Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
27179 posts
Posted on 9/26/22 at 10:19 am to
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No I go hire their replacements


If you have low turnover and no problem finding replacements when people leave, you’re probably fine. If you have high turnover and/or “staffing issues”, you should probably re-examine your MO.
Posted by Broke
AKA Buttercup
Member since Sep 2006
65050 posts
Posted on 9/26/22 at 10:20 am to
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You're the one that said she learned exactly what you taught her.


You do realize that people can learn something and then choose not to implement it correct? Tell me you understand that concept. It's like being taught not to cut the pressurized pipe but then thinking "It's quicker to just cut the pressurized pipe. A lesson will be learned and it's going to sting
Posted by NawlinsTiger9
Where the mongooses roam
Member since Jan 2009
34956 posts
Posted on 9/26/22 at 10:21 am to
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When did this shite start happening?


The dawn of civilization, people just have cute little names for it now
Posted by Broke
AKA Buttercup
Member since Sep 2006
65050 posts
Posted on 9/26/22 at 10:21 am to
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If you have low turnover and no problem finding replacements when people leave, you’re probably fine. If you have high turnover and/or “staffing issues”, you should probably re-examine your MO.


This is the entire fast food industries MO
Posted by Upperdecker
St. George, LA
Member since Nov 2014
30622 posts
Posted on 9/26/22 at 10:22 am to
It’s a big trend right now along with absurd minimum wage valuations and unionizing businesses that have been traditionally not unionized

I see why these people want it - it’s all people stuck permanently in low wage jobs with no hope of advancement. Living poor. I get it’s a shitty situation, but it’s mostly their own doing and they lack the drive to pull themselves out
This post was edited on 9/26/22 at 10:24 am
Posted by DCtiger1
Panama City Beach
Member since Jul 2009
8796 posts
Posted on 9/26/22 at 10:22 am to
Giving a salary, benefits including health care, retirement and PTO is doing the absolute minimum? Maybe people’s worth and value is greatly overestimated.
Posted by LNCHBOX
70448
Member since Jun 2009
84306 posts
Posted on 9/26/22 at 10:22 am to
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You do realize that people can learn something and then choose not to implement it correct?


You're changing your statement now.
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It's like being taught not to cut the pressurized pipe but then thinking "It's quicker to just cut the pressurized pipe. A lesson will be learned and it's going to sting



It's not like that at all. Words have meanings.
Posted by GetMeOutOfHere
Member since Aug 2018
697 posts
Posted on 9/26/22 at 10:22 am to
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I've fired my own kid for being lazy.


Story time!
Posted by Broke
AKA Buttercup
Member since Sep 2006
65050 posts
Posted on 9/26/22 at 10:23 am to
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If you can't keep or attract employees at the pay you're offering, then you do not have leverage. You have a failing business model.

Good luck.



I don't have staffing issues at all. I never said I did. I pay well and give bonuses based on profits. That is what gives me leverage.
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