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re: What is the purpose of pronouns in work email signatures?

Posted on 8/24/21 at 10:05 am to
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 8/24/21 at 10:05 am to
Self promotion of progressivism
Posted by Snipe
Member since Nov 2015
16714 posts
Posted on 8/24/21 at 10:16 am to
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Honest question. I WFH for a small company, began Jan 2020, prior to that always for big companies in the office. I frequently interact with coworkers but oddly it’s only about work, so have no office banter or bureaucratic BS.

I assume the purpose is ultimately virtue signaling, by either individual or org. but it’s clearly becoming mandated in certain companies and local govs we work with. Yesterday a good old boy in his 50s/60s who I’ve spoken with several times named Mike in Odessa, TX had he/him. If there was confusion about this guys gender, I should just quit modern life.

What is the explanation for this? My guesses are:

1. To avoid genuine confusion? I guess it somewhat makes sense with a Kelley or Blake, I’ve assumed wrong with both of them. But that’s likely not the intent.

2. Self-promoted wokeness by the org? Look at us!

3. CYA HR move to build in policies in case of lawsuit?

Thanks for your consideration


I imagine 99% of the people who do it ,do it to "poke the bear" so to speak. They realize the a large portion of society think this is ridiculous (and rightfully so) so they do it to antagonize.

I generally ignore it, but forward thinking, if I am ever in a situation where I cannot avoid it and have to participate otherwise suffer some repercussion that I can not bear, my pronouns will be The/She/It.

If you can't have fun you're not living.
Posted by SouthEndzoneTiger
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2008
11615 posts
Posted on 8/24/21 at 10:20 am to
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Fair enough, that was bad


Posted by sawtooth
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2017
3588 posts
Posted on 8/24/21 at 10:22 am to
Same purpose as the masks.

Useless virtue signaling.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
120445 posts
Posted on 8/24/21 at 10:29 am to
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Its more than that though. My little brother is at Alabama and they strongly encourage all students to list their pronouns during Zoom streams. More catering to a tiny, but needy, percentage of the population


It’s not about catering to them. It’s about controlling your thoughts and minds.
Posted by dallastigers
Member since Dec 2003
10607 posts
Posted on 8/24/21 at 10:34 am to
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The idea is, and I am not saying I agree, to help transgender people feel more comfortable about identifying their pronouns. If everyone is identifying their pronouns, it doesn't stand out when someone who is transgender does it. So if Kaitlyn continues to be confused or mistaken as a man, though she prefers to be identified as a female, she will need to put "she/her/her's" in her email signature. That would be odd if only transgender people did that and bring unwanted attention to themselves. So the idea is if everyone does it, no one notices Kaitlyn's email signature and Kaitlyn gets called her preferred pronouns.


So all must look weak and with a psychological disorder to avoid the small number with disorder learning how to stand up on their own in reality of their situation or get help.

Besides it’s an email not a zoom call. Trans end up changing their name to match what they feel even though you would think this would be unnecessary with this pronoun crap. Including 3rd person pronouns in email to someone is also weird as a way to show how you want to be addressed as in response I will use their name or “you” when addressing people directly not refer to them as their 3rd person pronoun. With fluidity i also hope person doesn’t change it after the last email it sent to me.

It doesn’t have to make sense I guess as it seems more part of the narcissistic left’s need to say look at how tolerant I am while I push to ban you and ideas they are intolerant of.

Also there is reason some must continue to remind people while others don’t since it’s their natural biology. When everyone does it all signatures reflecting this will get ignored and have more issues when meeting face to face not less.

Posted by Steadyhands
Slightly above I-10
Member since May 2016
7155 posts
Posted on 8/24/21 at 10:49 am to
I haven't had this issue yet. I almost always put a Ms. or Mr. and occasionally will just go with a first name. I plan to continue doing this.
Posted by Abstract Queso Dip
Member since Mar 2021
5878 posts
Posted on 8/24/21 at 10:50 am to
Pronouns prevent the spread of negativenouns
Posted by Loup
Ferriday
Member since Apr 2019
16979 posts
Posted on 8/24/21 at 10:53 am to
my old boss had a female name and I would love it when clients would call him ma'am or miss in emails.
Posted by bbarras85
Member since Jul 2021
2409 posts
Posted on 8/24/21 at 12:37 pm to
I had a customer I was emailing back and forth last year that I thought was a woman by the name. I put thank you mam at the end of one email and my outside salesmen almost had a heart attack. This dudes parents named him Desire. (pronounced Desiree') His parents must have hated him from the day he was born.
Posted by latxwoman
Member since Mar 2019
824 posts
Posted on 8/24/21 at 12:45 pm to
I did an interview yesterday, and the first thing the real woman in her 50's told me is that her pronouns were she/her.

I said nothing.
Posted by CrappyPants
Member since Apr 2021
1117 posts
Posted on 8/24/21 at 12:47 pm to
There is NO purpose. Tell them to frick Off and if they force you to put a pronoun on your signature, put a farm animal. Like Cow or Pig. Tell them that is how you want to be referred to.
Posted by efrad
Member since Nov 2007
18704 posts
Posted on 8/24/21 at 12:50 pm to
What do you put if you're genderfluid?
Do you change it every time you send an email, based on what you're feeling at the moment?
Is it misgendering if they acknowledge the pronouns but you're feeling something different by the time you get a response?
Posted by madmaxvol
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Member since Oct 2011
22193 posts
Posted on 8/24/21 at 12:51 pm to
I'm thinking about including pronouns in my e-mail signature...but using archaic pronouns:

Thou/Thine/Ye
Posted by mark65mc
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2007
11535 posts
Posted on 8/24/21 at 12:53 pm to
If you put pronouns in an email signature, you are likely an a-hole. Act accordingly.
Posted by Cracker
in a box
Member since Nov 2009
19269 posts
Posted on 8/24/21 at 12:56 pm to
Not this again
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
45995 posts
Posted on 8/24/21 at 12:59 pm to
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I did an interview yesterday, and the first thing the real woman in her 50's told me is that her pronouns were she/her.


I hope tossed her resume in the trash. Now matter how qualified she is, she's going to make your life hell.

Posted by oogabooga68
Member since Nov 2018
27194 posts
Posted on 8/24/21 at 1:01 pm to
It helps people to self-identify as someone who should never, ever be taken seriously.
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