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re: What is the best bachelors or graduate degree to obtain right now?

Posted on 1/16/19 at 11:49 am to
Posted by WildManGoose
Member since Nov 2005
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Posted on 1/16/19 at 11:49 am to
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Senior engineers are making average like 150k, highest paid is making like 210k


Payscale is shite. Look up your job and report on it's accuracy. New hire engineers, 2 weeks out of LSU, are starting out at six figures at Shell Geismar. Management roles, reserved almost exclusively for engineers, top out closer to 200K. Maybe it's not "easy", but it's more realistic than those garbage numbers you posted.
Posted by CoachChappy
Member since May 2013
34324 posts
Posted on 1/16/19 at 11:58 am to
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1) Enter the market sideways - If you want to be in something like software, get into the market of the software you want to work with first. Your experience can probably get you there easier.

2-7 are advice I give my seniors every day.

#1 is the hard part for me. I just have no clue how or where to make the leap.
Posted by Freauxzen
Washington
Member since Feb 2006
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Posted on 1/16/19 at 12:08 pm to
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#1 is the hard part for me. I just have no clue how or where to make the leap.




What kind of software do you want to work with?

You say M Ed, right? Education software then? That's what I'm in.....
Posted by Breauxsif
Member since May 2012
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Posted on 1/16/19 at 12:11 pm to
Can’t tell you how many BA folks are in Product Mangement/Development, there’s a ton. They simply had the desire to learn tech. I’m a EE for a large company and many of these folks bring a different style of thinking to the table which proves to be advantageous.

CCNA, CCIE, then CISSP will always be in high demand on the network side, where mid 6 figures is plausible with several years of experience. If you’re in SaaS, the Salesforce.com Admin, then Developer route is an avenue where you’ll be extremely high in demand for decades to come.
This post was edited on 1/16/19 at 12:12 pm
Posted by Freauxzen
Washington
Member since Feb 2006
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Posted on 1/16/19 at 12:14 pm to
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Can’t tell you how many BA folks are in Product Mangement/Development, there’s a ton. They simply had the desire to learn tech. I’m a EE for a large company and many of these folks bring a different style of thinking to the table which proves to be advantageous.


Yup. We have history and poli sci majors running product teams.

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CCNA, CCIE, then CISSP will always be in high demand on the network side, where mid 6 figures is plausible with several years of experience. If you’re in SaaS, the Salesforce.com Admin, then Developer route is an avenue where you’ll be extremely high in demand for decades to come.



All of this, except Salesforce Admin gets you into Enterprise Systems, and although you can get to Product, it's probably a bit harder than Sales, Ops, Training etc. in terms of transitioning. But Developers and Enterprise Systems routes are locked in as high demand for the next few decades, that is correct.
Posted by CoachChappy
Member since May 2013
34324 posts
Posted on 1/16/19 at 12:23 pm to
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You say M Ed, right? Education software then? That's what I'm in.....

Yep. In fact, most of my students are enrolled in online classes.
Posted by volod
Leesville, LA
Member since Jun 2014
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Posted on 1/16/19 at 12:27 pm to
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Payscale is shite. Look up your job and report on it's accuracy. New hire engineers, 2 weeks out of LSU, are starting out at six figures at Shell Geismar. Management roles, reserved almost exclusively for engineers, top out closer to 200K. Maybe it's not "easy", but it's more realistic than those garbage numbers you posted.


an engineer can make as high as 200k but it's entirely relative to their company and their industry.

Many factors

* Do they have EIT status (not required but certainly can determine where you work and what your position is)

* Do they have a PE (same as above)

* Where did they graduate?

* What is their GPA and /or internships?

My point is that there multiple factors that determine getting the best jobs of Engineering school.
Posted by Freauxzen
Washington
Member since Feb 2006
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Posted on 1/16/19 at 12:44 pm to
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Yep. In fact, most of my students are enrolled in online classes.




If that's the kind of software you are interested in, that's easy. Most companies will take a shot at an entry level sales or product position if you can prove your background is valuable to them, especially those who are building companies like Silicon Valley (many regions are doing this - DC, Raleigh, SLC, Boston is on the up and up, Austin etc.).
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
42714 posts
Posted on 1/16/19 at 12:45 pm to
The OP was not what jobs pay the best, it’s what degrees lead to the best jobs. That is an incredibly difficult topic to answer, but I know that many employers view engineering degrees with a very positive light. It’s because of several factors but not limited to:

the perceived difficutly of obtaining said degree
the problem solving skills either required to get the degree or developed while getting it
The math required to get it

An engineering degree opens a lot of doors to people, which is why I recommend anyone asking my opinion to at least investigate engineering.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
37536 posts
Posted on 1/16/19 at 12:50 pm to
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The OP was not what jobs pay the best, it’s what degrees lead to the best jobs. That is an incredibly difficult topic to answer, but I know that many employers view engineering degrees with a very positive light. It’s because of several factors but not limited to:


You having one
Posted by jimbeam
University of LSU
Member since Oct 2011
75703 posts
Posted on 1/16/19 at 12:54 pm to
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What did you look up? Average engineer position salary? Or average salary of someone who has an engineering degree? Again, I know very few engineers within my company who have been actual design engineers for 15 years. Within my product line, I can think of like 10 who truly still do engineering. On the other hand, almost everyone I work with has an engineering degree from sales, to management, to project coordinating, etc..


Waiting
Posted by lshuge
Member since Sep 2017
987 posts
Posted on 1/16/19 at 12:56 pm to
College is a total scam ad waste of money. It's way overrated and a total waste of time and money.

After racking up $100,000 + in student loans for a BS in computer science and an MBA from top notch schools I find more and more people in my field have liberal arts degrees. Also, most of my colleagues have had to train a foreigner (indian - dot not feather) to take over their job.

My advice is to skip school and travel for 2 years to see what you want to do before investing a ton of money into an education that you won't use or you will not be able to find a well paying job with.

There are plenty of billionaires without college degrees.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
37536 posts
Posted on 1/16/19 at 12:56 pm to
Anything from process, petroleum, industrial, project management, to engineering manager
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
37536 posts
Posted on 1/16/19 at 12:59 pm to
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My advice is to skip school and travel for 2 years to see what you want to do before investing a ton of money into an education that you won't use or you will not be able to find a well paying job with.


So you advise an 18 year old to take on thousands of dollars of debt to decide to take on thousands of dollars of debt?

That seems fiscally responsible.

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There are plenty of billionaires without college degrees


Yeah they dropped out of Harvard or Stanford or MIT to pursue their already pretty successful ideas. Joe from Breaux Bridge isn't becoming a billionaire because he skipped going to ULL for that construction management degree.
Posted by CoachChappy
Member since May 2013
34324 posts
Posted on 1/16/19 at 12:59 pm to
I've had a few offers, but nothing solid enough to take a shot and uproot my family. I think I am going to wait until I hit my 20 year mark and then I can really look at it harder. Having that pension in my back pocket would be amazing.
Posted by lshuge
Member since Sep 2017
987 posts
Posted on 1/16/19 at 1:05 pm to
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IT/Network security engineering will also earn you a shite ton.


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I can attest to this.


What do you consider a shite ton? Contract or W2?
Posted by jchamil
Member since Nov 2009
19880 posts
Posted on 1/16/19 at 1:05 pm to
What is your field?
Posted by 1BamaRTR
In Your Head Blvd
Member since Apr 2015
24878 posts
Posted on 1/16/19 at 1:08 pm to
Well he is the self proclaimed OT genius on everything
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
37536 posts
Posted on 1/16/19 at 1:13 pm to
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Well he is the self proclaimed OT genius on everything



I don't proclaim myself a genius, being of competent intelligence on this board makes you a comparative genius for this site though
Posted by stapuffmarshy
lower 9
Member since Apr 2010
17507 posts
Posted on 1/16/19 at 1:17 pm to
If I pay attention to thread topics I would say Transgender surgeon.


A doctor of transgenderism?


Dr. Transgendered
This post was edited on 1/16/19 at 1:18 pm
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