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Posted on 1/16/19 at 10:06 am to Mingo Was His NameO
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If you want to start your career making 75k and end your career making 115k
So careers for senior engineers only
Last 10 years?
Posted on 1/16/19 at 10:08 am to Oilfieldbiology
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So careers for senior engineers only
Last 10 years?
I DON'T LIKE THE DATA OR ANECDOTALLY IT'S NOT RIGHT SO I DON'T BELIEVE IT!!!!!!!!!
Posted on 1/16/19 at 10:20 am to Gaston
When he was like 40 lol. You shoulda seen my 5th wheel at 19. Probably better than most of yalls houses now
Posted on 1/16/19 at 10:23 am to Mingo Was His NameO
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If you want to start your career making 75k and end your career making 115k
It depends on discipline and geographical area.
In the Gulf region, chemical, mechanical, and petroleum can start off at your high number without much job searching and can finish between 175K-250K easily also. If your motivation is money, there's plenty of opportunity.
Posted on 1/16/19 at 10:24 am to Mingo Was His NameO
Ah yes, everyone is less intelligent than you and you’re the only one who knows anything about anything. I forgot who I was replying too.
Posted on 1/16/19 at 10:30 am to WildManGoose
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can finish between 175K-250K easily
Easily, no they can't. I posted the link with shell salaries. Senior engineers are making average like 150k, highest paid is making like 210k. If you can find me a lot of companies that average pay is higher than the highest paid at shell I'll reevaluate.
Posted on 1/16/19 at 10:31 am to Oilfieldbiology
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Ah yes, everyone is less intelligent than you and you’re the only one who knows anything about anything. I forgot who I was replying too.
I don't believe that's true. You all are just emotional about the topic. The numbers are the numbers, and you can't understand that it's certainly possible to make more, but very very unlikely.
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Posted on 1/16/19 at 10:31 am to Mingo Was His NameO
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engineering
If you want to start your career making 75k and end your career making 115k
You're a dumbass.
Posted on 1/16/19 at 10:38 am to Mingo Was His NameO
The reason engineers get paid so bad is because they’re only there because the government says you have to have them
The average operator or contract hand knows way more than an engineer does
The average operator or contract hand knows way more than an engineer does
Posted on 1/16/19 at 10:39 am to RD Dawg
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When did I ever say it was some type of deduction taken out of their check
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big chunk coming out of their paycheck
Calm down little buddy. Are you a PA and that is why your panties are in a wad?
If that's what the internet is saying then sure. I take everything on the internet with a grain of salt. I've spoken to friends that are actively looking for jobs (Vascular surgery, hospitalist) in those areas and that's what they are seeing. So...we'll agree to disagree per our various sources. You disagree with me per your expert internets skillz and I'll disagree with you per my direct sources.
I'm done arguing with you. The OP specified that this really is a hypothetical for him but I wanted to clarify your misinformation regarding PA vs MD for anyone who might be considering the two. Both are good fields depending on what you want. 2 years of schooling after college for a PA making that income is not a bad deal. But if you are willing to do more schooling and make much more than that then its also not a bad deal.
Posted on 1/16/19 at 10:41 am to oob02
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I take everything on the internet with a grain of salt. I've spoken to friends
Lol
Posted on 1/16/19 at 10:43 am to Mingo Was His NameO
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can finish between 175K-250K easily
That is bullshite. Though Mingo is mostly a tool, I have to agree with him in that 175k-200k is more like the extreme upper end of pay for engineering positions and that is probably management at large majors. I'd say that the normal upper end (15-20 years) for mechanical/civil engineers is closer to $150k-175k.
Posted on 1/16/19 at 10:51 am to Douglas Quaid
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I'd say that the normal upper end (15-20 years) for mechanical/civil engineers is closer to $150k-175k.
Well, he said $115k.
Posted on 1/16/19 at 11:22 am to DisplacedBuckeye
Yeah that's probably not quite right either on the upper end.
Posted on 1/16/19 at 11:31 am to Douglas Quaid
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175k-200k is more like the extreme upper end of pay for engineering positions
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(15-20 years) for mechanical/civil engineers is closer to $150k-175k
But who do you know in a traditional mechanical/civil engineering role after 20 years? Maybe in Civil as I don't know that industry well. In all honesty, I can think of two people I've kept up with that are still in a traditional engineering role (9-10 years out of school). One is a contractor that works for himself, so that's really owning your own business. Most are project managers, sales, management, etc.. Don't know any design guys.
I'm in the O&G industry and do see a lot of 20+ year people in petroleum engineering roles, but those make significantly more than what he referred to so I excluded them. And to be honest, it's as much a project management role as it is engineering.
The question of the OP was not what is the best job, it's the best degree. Engineering is in the top 3 easily.
Posted on 1/16/19 at 11:33 am to Mingo Was His NameO
Treefiddy Science
Posted on 1/16/19 at 11:33 am to Mingo Was His NameO
It doesn't really look like your data backs up your statement on $75K-$115K
Posted on 1/16/19 at 11:38 am to jchamil
It doesn't. He's just shite at math.
Posted on 1/16/19 at 11:46 am to CoachChappy
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How on Earth did you parlay that? I have an undergrad in Lit and Master's in Ed. I'm always curious how to use that outside of ed.
1) Enter the market sideways - If you want to be in something like software, get into the market of the software you want to work with first. Your experience can probably get you there easier.
2) Communicate your value effectively. Articulate, critically, what you did in school and are doing now, the value proposition of what you bring to the table.
3) Be a voracious learner - Certificates, Sessions, Badges, etc.
4) Build a good network of people that trust you
5) Once you land that good mid-level role, execute and expand on your skillset ASAP, and take chances on projects internally that are outside of your job scope. This certainly requires the company to be one that values such an approach.
6) Be awesome to work with, and show your flexibility. Cross-team success has given me significant latitude to do whatever I want. Lots of departments trust me to do a job well, even if I am owning part of their work.
7) Be humble. I outrank and outearn engineers here, but I'm the first one to go and say "Why does our product do this? Why did we build it that way?" And turn around and be useful or helpful in return. When it comes to the relationship between sales and product - a lot of pressure can be applied. It's as simple as reaching out to that engineer and saying "Hey, we just closed this deal, and this product ask is coming down the pipeline soon. Be ready." they appreciate that.
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